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Here's the difference between schools and damn near every other industry, education has to accept every piece of raw material sent to it. No English language skills? You're in. Homeless? You're in. Fractured family with both parents locked up? You're in. Parents never made you go to school so you missed half of every year? You're in. Illegally in the US? You're in. And so on.
I mean, I'd accept that line of reasoning if you were saying "the standard is you have to make them into Einstein." But we're saying "make them functionally literate in 12 years." And we're not talking about Mexicans -- which, by the way, teachers are on the side of supporting illegal immigration, so that's their problem -- but just regular born-in-America Americans.
I mean, I'd accept that line of reasoning if you were saying "the standard is you have to make them into Einstein." But we're saying "make them functionally literate in 12 years." And we're not talking about Mexicans -- which, by the way, teachers are on the side of supporting illegal immigration, so that's their problem -- but just regular born-in-America Americans.
Eighth grade is literate.
Spend some time in a non-middle/non-upper middle class school and see "born in America" kids being send to school. Some are in diapers, at 5 years old. Many don't know their real names. Many can't recognize any letter, name a color or wash their hands.
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The problem is teacher's unions that reward people based on seniority rather than quality of work. I have never worked any private sector job that would do something so stupid. If bad teachers were easier to fire and good teachers couldn't retire at 50 most problems would go away.
Always talking about cutting teacher benefits, firing teachers, whining against Teacher Unions,but never going after corporate welfare. What's the deal ?
That's an ignorant assumption on your part. Conservatives do not like corporate welfare. When the politicians just give money away to a favored corporate crony, that's nothing but corruption, and crony capitalism.
We also have nothing against teachers. We do not like the collusion between public sector teachers unions, where the teachers are paid by government, and the politicians, teachers and union bosses collude to enrich each other, at taxpayer expense.
"Dumbing down" is what gave us Obama and his empty promises of lowering the oceans and cheaper healthcare. Chairman Mao was the first to kill all the teachers and prevent education as a way to control the people. The Democrats are the same. They want a government program for everything. You can't even purchase a toilet without a government mandated gpf requirement.
Still trotting out your favorite straw man Obama? Got news for you - he's history, done , forgotten, yesterday. It's all about YOU now. YOU have it all, the Presidency, the legislature, and soon the Supreme court. Your response didn't address the topic in any way - because you can't. Explain to us how YOU - assuming you are one of Trump's minions, are going to increase the literacy of this country.
Spend some time in a non-middle/non-upper middle class school and see "born in America" kids being send to school. Some are in diapers, at 5 years old. Many don't know their real names. Many can't recognize any letter, name a color or wash their hands.
LOL, teachers like "uh, yeah, the reason we're terrible at our jobs is ...uh ...you wouldn't believe this, but the kids don't even know their names!" I think you went just a tad too far on that one, bro. Oh, yeah, that plus the whole "they're still wearing diapers, that's why they can't read" thing. But, yeah, whatever we need to do to protect teacher's unions.
That's an ignorant assumption on your part. Conservatives do not like corporate welfare. When the politicians just give money away to a favored corporate crony, that's nothing but corruption, and crony capitalism.
We also have nothing against teachers. We do not like the collusion between public sector teachers unions, where the teachers are paid by government, and the politicians, teachers and union bosses collude to enrich each other, at taxpayer expense.
Maybe YOU don't have anything against teachers, and increasing the literacy of this nation. But if you think your leader has the same objectives you are dreaming. This guy can barely communicate in Tweets, and has stated time and again that he loves the uneducated and the uninformed. Why? Because the stupider people are, the more likely they are to buy into his populist vapor ware. No autocrat in history has wanted an educated electorate, why would Trump? It's much easier to manipulate people when they do not have critical thinking skills.
People don't like stopping educational progress, government welfare, and one-sided rules... the teachers did all of the above... prepare to reap your rewards...
Maybe YOU don't have anything against teachers, and increasing the literacy of this nation. But if you think your leader has the same objectives you are dreaming. This guy can barely communicate in Tweets, and has stated time and again that he loves the uneducated and the uninformed. Why? Because the stupider people are, the more likely they are to buy into his populist vapor ware. No autocrat in history has wanted an educated electorate, why would Trump? It's much easier to manipulate people when they do not have critical thinking skills.
Maybe because he is not an autocrat, for a start? There was an election, he won. You may have seen something about this on the news over the past three weeks or so.
LOL, teachers like "uh, yeah, the reason we're terrible at our jobs is ...uh ...you wouldn't believe this, but the kids don't even know their names!" I think you went just a tad too far on that one, bro. Oh, yeah, that plus the whole "they're still wearing diapers, that's why they can't read" thing. But, yeah, whatever we need to do to protect teacher's unions.
So you can't accept reality and instead blame unions, which except for a very specific few, are pretty worthless in education, not to mention many states don't have them or the euphemism association.
You also accept the canard that "teachers can't be fired", which is, I won't call it what it is, a lie, but instead say it's an inaccuracy.
Once again, if you're in New Jersey (and why you guys from there and New York can't get it through your heads) that what may be true for there isn't for most of the rest of the country.
If you don't believe my examples, which were from where I taught, then go on a field trip to Camden to see it closer to your home. I don't know which exit.
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