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Old 11-29-2016, 02:58 AM
 
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So Trump plans to announce Tom Price as HHS Secretary. Tom Price is an Obamacare foe and also wants to Conservative reform for Medicare.

Tom Price seems to think the solution is tort reform, which is a joke since half the states already have tort reform and the insurance companies did not pass costs on to patients, they just kept the money.

Last week, Price said whatever Republicans do to replace Obama's health care law will bear a 'significant resemblance' to a 2015 measure that was vetoed by the president.

That bill would have gutted some of the health care law's main features: Medicaid expansion, subsidies to help middle-class Americans buy private policies, the tax penalties for individuals who refused to get coverage and several taxes to support coverage expansion.


And the most predictable part:

Price said Republicans want to address 'the real cost drivers' of health care price spikes, which he said were not necessarily sicker patients, but a heavy regulatory burden, taxes and lawsuits against medical professionals.

Trump to nominate anti-Obamacare Georgia representative Tom Price as health secretary | Daily Mail Online

Good luck with health coverage. It looks like they will try to keep pre-existing conditions and kids on policies, maybe they will let insurance companies put in spending caps and tort reform. Basically the only thing Trump will bring for health coverage is tort reform, pre-existing conditions and kids on policies.

And since Price is a big advocate of reforming Medicare, combine that with Paul Ryan and Medicare is definitely going to be changed. There's no way it won't be.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:14 AM
 
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Yes, Medicare Phaseout is in the cards:

"...top supporter of Speaker Paul Ryan's plan to phase out Medicare and replace it with private insurance and vouchers."

On November 17th, when TPM asked Price about his timeline for moving Medicare phaseout legislation in the next Congress, Price said he did not believe it would be in the first legislation Trump and the Republican Congress would tackle in the Spring. He said he expected it would come mid-year in the second phase of the budget reconciliation process. "I think that is probably in the second phase of reconciliation, which would have to be in the FY 18 budget resolution in the first 6-8 months," Price told TPM.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...ss-next-summer

Seniors cannot complain about this, they voted for it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:19 AM
 
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If the (D)'s had done health care right in the beginning they do not lose the House and Senate and none of this happens.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:20 AM
 
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I knew that Tort Reform was a canard the moment Republicans and Conservatives started pushing it. That was nothing but a cynical ploy to let wealthy businesses and their leaders off the hook for their liabilities.

Too bad so many sucker ass people fell for it.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:23 AM
 
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If the (D)'s had done health care right in the beginning they do not lose the House and Senate and none of this happens.
The D's tried to do it right and lost Massachusetts which supported Scott Brown because they already had RomneyCare. Oh, the irony. They kicked Scott Brown to the curb in the next election but the damage was done. A compromise no one wanted because Republicans had determined to oppose anything and everything Obama proposed.

That aside, seniors voted for this. They supported Trump by huge margins and it will be under Trump's watch that Medicare is privatized and Medicaid recipients lose their coverage. I'm glad I'm not a senior but I don't feel bad for them. They chose this and with a Republican president, Senate, House and Supreme Court, they will do whatever they want for the next four years with no opposition whatsoever.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:23 AM
 
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If the (D)'s had done health care right in the beginning they do not lose the House and Senate and none of this happens.
If you like your death panel you can keep your death panel.

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Old 11-29-2016, 03:27 AM
 
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This is not speculation. Tom Price absolutely wants to phaseout Medicare and privatize it. Trump choosing him as HHS Secretary means Trump supports it.

Rep. Tom Price Reveals Republicans Eyeing Medicare Overhaul In 2017

Price, who is being floated as a possible Health and Human Services Secretary in the next administration, said that he expects Republican in the House to move on Medicare reforms "six to eight months" into the Trump administration.

Privatization of Medicare has been a central feature of Speaker of the House Paul Ryan's budget proposal for years, and the House GOP has voted in favor of it multiple times. Ryan himself said last week that Medicare would be on the table in the new Congress, signaling it could be taken up early in the new year.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...erhaul-in-2017
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:28 AM
 
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If you like your death panel you can keep your death panel.

Seniors will be shopping for policies on the open market. I hope they think it's funny, this is happening folks.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:29 AM
 
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Finally Medicare will be phased out and seniors will be on their own in the free market! Feel sorry for the seniors who didnt vote for Trump and his cronies, but for the rest you get what you vote for. We can only imagine how many will die off or suffer extreme pain as a result.
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Old 11-29-2016, 03:32 AM
 
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I knew that Tort Reform was a canard the moment Republicans and Conservatives started pushing it. That was nothing but a cynical ploy to let wealthy businesses and their leaders off the hook for their liabilities.

Too bad so many sucker ass people fell for it.
Every time I hear tort reform I roll my eyes. All it is is limiting lawsuits and the only beneficiaries are the insurance companies. Look at the states that already have tort reform. Their health coverage costs are no cheaper and no more available. It's just a giveaway.

The best people can expect from this is pre-existing conditions and kids on plans until 26. Otherwise, the old rules apply, insurance companies will do what they always did before.

As for Medicare, it will be voucherized and seniors will be buying private policies. No way around it with the selection of Tom Price combined with Paul Ryan.
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