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Old 11-29-2016, 04:15 AM
 
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They did want it and could not pass it.
You act like most of us didnt actually live through it. Like it's some far off fading memory.

They never tried.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:16 AM
 
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Medicare will be turned into a new Obamacare for seniors before finally being phased out completely and seniors will be completely on their own trying to convince insurance companies to take them on board for a reasonable price. I expect huge numbers of deaths from both kicking the sick off ACA and Medicare phaseout. This will weed out a lot of people and could make America great again.
You have a point, this is like Republican Death Panels where everyone loses.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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they did want it and could not pass it. And republicans will have a simple majority. I'm not sure why this is hard to comprehend, the links are included and tom price and paul ryan are openly announcing it. Republicans have free reign now for the next four years.
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Thank God.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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They did want it and could not pass it. And Republicans will have a simple majority. I'm not sure why this is hard to comprehend, the links are included and Tom Price and Paul Ryan are openly announcing it. Republicans have free reign now for the next four years.

I don't think Trump will run again, he will get all he wants in one term and after this, wouldn't win again anyway but by then Republicans will have their wish list completed. Entitlement reform, privatization of Medicare and Social Security, Obamacare demonized and repealed with the hope that Democrats never touch health coverage again (never mind that 19 governors never let their states have Medicaid coverage), a very right wing Supreme Court with abortion severely restricted, environmental regulations removed entirely and probably attempts to reduce public education. With four years and Republicans owning everything, they will get their entire wish list easily done.
Much more importantly; the GOP Supreme Court will eliminate all restrictions on campaign finance (which Scalia strongly advocated) which means the donor class can just hand over money directly to their puppets who will be working for them to transfer more wealth from the working class, the poor and the middle class to the billionaire class, making it impossible to ever run for office again without begging the super rich for money. We are rapidly running out of time to steer the ship away from a complete and permanent oligarchy.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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You act like most of us didnt actually live through it. Like it's some far off fading memory.

They never tried.
I watched every minute of it and there were numerous obstacles to Medicare for all. Without complete support it would not pass. And now Medicare will be Medicare for none so it doesn't matter.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Something has to be done. The federal government (taxpayers) is spending 1/3 of the budget on healthcare.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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Sounds like this thread is going to be the usual liberal fantasies about people dying in the streets again.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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Much more importantly; the GOP Supreme Court will eliminate all restrictions on campaign finance which means the donor class can just hand over money directly to their puppets who will be working for them to transfer more wealth to the billionaire class, making it impossible to ever run for office again without begging the super rich for money. We are rapidly running out of time to steer the ship away from a complete and permanent oligarchy.
That ship has sailed completely. First it was Citizens United, now with a GOP Supreme Court, the rich will basically own the country. This is like a Koch Brothers dream come true.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:19 AM
 
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So in other words, Republicans have no plans for health coverage and will not pass health coverage when they have the ability to do it any way they want. It goes back to the way it was before where a large portion has no coverage and further, Medicare recipients must buy a policy on the open market. While Republicans are high fiving and yelling Hope and Change with the victory of taking away health coverage, Republicans actually make the situation worse.

No it includes coverage until 26, pre existing stuff covered, 50 states competing, plus lower cost options than the outrageously expensive ACA plans.


Starting in 2010, at 5 straight polls, Americans rejected ACA.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:21 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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They did want it and could not pass it. And Republicans will have a simple majority. I'm not sure why this is hard to comprehend, the links are included and Tom Price and Paul Ryan are openly announcing it. Republicans have free reign now for the next four years.

I don't think Trump will run again, he will get all he wants in one term and after this, wouldn't win again anyway but by then Republicans will have their wish list completed. Entitlement reform, privatization of Medicare and Social Security, Obamacare demonized and repealed with the hope that Democrats never touch health coverage again (never mind that 19 governors never let their states have Medicaid coverage), a very right wing Supreme Court with abortion severely restricted, environmental regulations removed entirely and probably attempts to reduce public education. With four years and Republicans owning everything, they will get their entire wish list easily done.
You are hilarious! Wait until America wakes up this morning and sees they have such an expert, guiding the re-write of the disaster Obamacare.
You people lost big time mainly because of your view of healthcare. Deal with it.
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