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I don't know if flag burners were on their mind. They also put in provisions for defending the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.
They also put in these juicy little tidbits:
AMENDMENT I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
AMENDMENT II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
AMENDMENT III
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
AMENDMENT IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
AMENDMENT V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
AMENDMENT VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
AMENDMENT VII
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
AMENDMENT VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
AMENDMENT IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
AMENDMENT X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Not at all. I think you should try burning a flag near some once and see how you do.
My uncle, a decorated Vietnam War vet who served two tours and earned numerous citations and service accolades from the US government, always supported the right to burn the flag and protest. I think people like you should stop talking for people like my uncle and others.
Liberals also care about the constitution just like many conservatives do. Trumpkins don't obviously. They aren't real conservatives anyway.
What makes a "real conservative" anyways?
Sorry I don't see how making it illegal to publically burn a flag in protest is infringing on one's freedom of speech.
There are other ways to protest that don't spit on the graves of war veterans that died for what this country stood for, and I read your post about your relative.
Sorry I don't see how making it illegal to publically burn a flag in protest is infringing on one's freedom of speech.
There are other ways to protest that don't spit on the graves of war veterans that died for what this country stood for, and I read your post about your relative.
You don't see how instituting a law that makes it illegal to insult the state (by burning the flag) is counter to the very principals to which this country was founded on? Shall we arrest any who say things that do not praise the state? How about those who do not stand and pledge to the flag and national anthem? Are you starting to see the problem yet?
Either we respect individual liberty, or we don't. You can't pick and choose, it is no different than any tyrant who thinks their selection of allowed liberties is best for the people.
My uncle, a decorated Vietnam War vet who served two tours and earned numerous citations and service accolades from the US government, always supported the right to burn the flag and protest.
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Originally Posted by Magritte25
Liberals also care about the constitution just like many conservatives do. Trumpkins don't obviously. They aren't real conservatives anyway.
I am pretty sure your decorated Vietnam war vet uncle would defend the 1st amendment right of all Trumpkins.
by the way, many people also have friends/loved one/relatives who served in combat. Some of us even had dead friends. I think it is important to remember that one combat vet doesn't speak for other combat vet, we are all entitled to our own opinions. None of us really speaks for other people.
I personally have many friends who are liberals; I don't think they all think the same. It is hard to define "real liberalism" "real conservatism" anyway. Just a thought.
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My uncle, a decorated Vietnam War vet who served two tours and earned numerous citations and service accolades from the US government, always supported the right to burn the flag and protest. I think people like you should stop talking for people like my uncle and others.
Do you need a safe space? Do you need me to put it in nice comfort words so your delicate senses can digest it?
Ok, I will there my little sensitive flower.
You see, the flag is simply an object. Your liberty, your freedom is your own and no symbol or position of power of man allows you it. You are a sovereign individual, you are not a subject to a person, state, or people. You do not require anyones approval or liege to live as you will. This is what it means to be free, to be an American and no amount of worshiping a piece of cloth or standing at attention or salute will make you any more sovereign than you are. In fact, to demand someone do so is to disregard their sovereignty, to disregard their individual liberty. You see... to claim one owes their "freedom", their "liberty" to a flag or a state is to essentially claim that they are gifted such by that power, something that is at complete odds with the very preamble to which states that these "freedoms", these "liberties" are inalienable, God given and outside of the legitimate powers of man.
Is that good enough for your delicate senses or do I need to mail you a cloth with pretty pictures so you can stand at attention saluting it so you can feel better about yourself? Maybe, we can throw gang signs and you can go on about how you feel like you are part of a group? Heck, why not just become a progressive, they sure love to talk about forced collectives and group think?
Am I being too harsh on you there buttercup?
"Do you need a safe space?" Not at all.
Safe places are for all the crying lefties who can't grasp realty.
We didn't see any of this from the repubs when Obama won.
HMM, I wonder why?
"You see, the flag is simply an object"
You are entitled to your opinion. thankfully MOST Americans disagre with you.
It is a SYMBOL of our country and the treatment of it shows respect for it.
It is a symbol of all the men and women who, over our existence, have sacrificed, sometimes with their lives, to make this such a great country.
It represents us to the rest of the world.
If you have np patriotism for your country I suggest you move to place suited to your liking.
Or are they type who just uses what we have to offer and feel no obligation to show respect for your country?
How sad, so very sad.
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