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True. But the enemy in Viet Nam didn't want to come here and blow things up. Their goal was to take the South and stay there. Terror tactics here would have been counter productive to their goals. Giap wasn't a fanatic and neither was Ho Chi Minh. Trying to attack targets in the US with infiltrators would have strengthened US resolve and weakened the public opinion against the war.
Vietnamese has a different culture, too. I know i will get a lot of negative remarks for my next statement, I know that Vietnam war is highly unpopular, but ask any south Vietnamese, they view Americans as their saviors, do they not?
North Vietnamese are not anti-US either. The point someone was trying to make was that we should not take any people in from hostile countries, and I offered Vietnam as an example where we took lots of people in although it was very hostile.
well, Most Vietnamese refugees came to America seeking an end to violence, but many of these youngsters came with the only life style they knew. As orphans or part of war-separated families, they started running in child gangs in Vietnam for sheer survival.
I don't have any solutions. If you bring morality into the discussion, you won the debate, every single time. After all, how can anybody deny the importance of saving lives?
However, Bottom line is that
People get used to using violence to settle their disputes, and it is difficult to find a way to unlearn those behaviors,You end up with a warlord economy which is incredibly hard to break and which does lead to a constant renewal of conflict--as it will in Afghanistan.
Take a look at Europe, The vast majority of refugees arrived by sea but some migrants have made their way over land, principally via Turkey and Albania.
Speaking to the Guardian, the UN high commissioner for refugees, António Guterres, said: “If you look at those displaced by conflict per day, in 2010 it was 11,000; last year there were 42,000. This means a dramatic increase in need, from shelter to water and sanitation, food, medical assistance, education.
“The budgets cannot be compared with the growth in need. Our income in 2015 will be around 10% less than in 2014. The global humanitarian community is not broken – as a whole they are more effective than ever before. But we are financially broke.”
No, I don't think I did. Equating refugees from Viet Nam to refugees from "hostile" areas today is like using refugees from Europe during WW2 the same way. The "refugee" situation today is quite different from both those examples. Current refugees are coming from areas that are extremely hostile to the US, and said refugees harbor that hostility. They are not coming here with the intention of escaping anything other than the poorest of living conditions. Which they blame on the US.
They share ideology with the same people who have torn their home countries to shreds. Its quite a different situation.
Good. Now we are getting somewhere. The argument was that we cannot accept any people from an AREA which is hostile. Vietnam, including South Vietnam was very hostile, but not everyone in the area was hostile. Some were hostile, while others were friendly. In mid-east some are hostile, and some are allies. For example the Iraqis are on our side fighting ISIS. We have accepted 150 000 Iraqis into the US since the invasion, and none have committed any hostile acts in US.
In a nutshell, this is exactly what we are doing when we allow "refugees" from hostile territories into America.
The Trojan horse analogy is appropriate.
No not all are dangerous. The MAJORITY aren't I'm sure, but as we can see, it only takes a few to do some massive damage.
Why does this concept not make sense to so many?
Pick your favorite high crime neighborhood in your area.
Would you just let someone into your home from these areas if they came knocking on your door?
Forget about all the ways media spins this concept and just think about this for a second, and then respond.
Oh, but we are a nation of immigrants and Hitler killed Jews and Trump is a fascist and the USA and only the USA has a duty to allow anyone and everyone to come here, legally and illegally. And if you don't think so you are a ___ -ist.
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