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There is plenty of food around in the world. Obesity is a bigger problem than hunger in the developing world. The US farmer will get crushed if tariffs are slapped on US products and Brazilian and Argentine farmers get the gains. The US farmer should be very worried about this.
As far as America cars are concerned, North America is still, by far, the largest car market in the USA. It will be the foreign makes who will be devastated if they can't sell here.
Only 17m cars and trucks are sold in America. 75m are sold globally and expanding rapidly (unlike America). All American car manufacturers will go bankrupt if they are shut out of the global market.[/quote]
Yes, leave it to liberals to tell us what we all must be afraid of
China imposes massive tariffs on our American made automobiles, ensuring that our workers cannot reasonably make an automobile to sell in their market. See how protectionism works?
Aside from that, there is little chance that we can ever manufacture an automobile that would be competitive in their market with the way things are, unless it was a niche product that was highly sought after, or we had economies of scale type advantage. The Chinese manipulate their currency, support protectionist policies, support state owned entities, and so forth. That's why Ford, GM and the rest build plants over there and hire their people to make them.
Ford and GM are doing very well in China and it is a huge market for them. If they are shut out of this market, they are finished. It will massively hurt Michigan and the rest of the rust belt. Progressives (New Deal democrats) are the only ones who have consistently opposed NAFTA and other trade deals without input from labor so if you have not voted for progressives like Sanders and instead voted for puppets of the donor class, you only have yourself to blame.
Ford and GM are doing very well in China and it is a huge market for them. If they are shut out of this market, they are finished. It will massively hurt Michigan and the rest of the rust belt. Progressives (New Deal democrats) are the only ones who have consistently opposed NAFTA and other trade deals without input from labor so if you have not voted for progressives like Sanders and instead voted for puppets of the donor class, you only have yourself to blame.
The rust belt seems to disagree with your assessment. They came out in support of Trump and they are a big reason that he won.
I feel the same about people that support corporate welfare(off the back of other hardworking Americans) in a unrealistic and unsustainable attempt to subsidize the fat paychecks of overpaid factory workers that choose not to relocate or retrain for better job opportunities.
It's probably cheaper to have them signup for traditional welfare if they are too lazy to relocate or retrain because it's less expensive than paying them $70k/year with corporate welfare dollars coming out of our pocket. If only they would retrain or relocate for better job opportunities then we wouldn't have to give them any welfare. But they want corporate welfare. Brainwashed dummies that support it, IMO.
Do you think they will want to eat sand instead? 2.4B people in the world don't get enough to eat. There isn't enough food produced on the entire planet to feed 7B+ people.
There is plenty of food around in the world. Obesity is a bigger problem than hunger in the developing world. The US farmer will get crushed if tariffs are slapped on US products and Brazilian and Argentine farmers get the gains. The US farmer should be very worried about this.
Nope. You are absolutely wrong. Only only has to make a quick trip to Haiti to see hunger.
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Originally Posted by PCALMike
Only 17m cars and trucks are sold in America. 75m are sold globally and expanding rapidly (unlike America). All American car manufacturers will go bankrupt if they are shut out of the global market.
So do you believe the UK, Australia, Europe, China and others will move to close Ford & GM factories there and put 1000s of their workers out of a job? I don't think so.
Your numbers are also wrong. You don't filter out automobiles that are resold.
So do you believe the UK, Australia, Europe, China and others will move to close Ford & GM factories there and put 1000s of their workers out of a job? I don't think so.
"you are wrong" is not a counterargument. You havent disproved what I said. Hunger in Haiti is not proof that there is not enough food in the world. Just that Haiti doesnt have the money to buy it. Unlike other countries who will retaliate. American farmers are totally dependent on the global market and they will get crushed and other farming powerhouses will pick up the gains.
Of course the rest of the world will retaliate against American car manufacturers if Trump follows through. 1000s of workers out of a job? Those workers will be re-employed by German, Chinese, Japanese and other car manufacturers located in those countries when US manufacturers lose market share there.
"you are wrong" is not a counterargument. You havent disproved what I said. Hunger in Haiti is not proof that there is not enough food in the world. Just that Haiti doesnt have the money to buy it. Unlike other countries who will retaliate. American farmers are totally dependent on the global market and they will get crushed and other farming powerhouses will pick up the gains.
Of course the rest of the world will retaliate against American car manufacturers if Trump follows through. 1000s of workers out of a job? Those workers will be re-employed by German, Chinese, Japanese and other car manufacturers located in those countries when US manufacturers lose market share there.
Those countries already have systems put in place to protect their workforce.
"you are wrong" is not a counterargument. You havent disproved what I said. Hunger in Haiti is not proof that there is not enough food in the world. Just that Haiti doesnt have the money to buy it. Unlike other countries who will retaliate. American farmers are totally dependent on the global market and they will get crushed and other farming powerhouses will pick up the gains.
Of course the rest of the world will retaliate against American car manufacturers if Trump follows through. 1000s of workers out of a job? Those workers will be re-employed by German, Chinese, Japanese and other car manufacturers located in those countries when US manufacturers lose market share there.
American farmers? By that you must mean ConAgra and Monsanto? American farmers, family farmers, were crushed long ago by globalism and debt. With 350 million consumers and producers, the US could conceivably return to a more insular economy with limited exports and imports and great reliance on domestic labor. It would be a blow to the billionaire and investor classes for sure, but probably a win for most of us.
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