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Old 12-06-2016, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by MAcapulco View Post
We had a Civil War about this.

So. Anything from Virginia on down...

Did they ever apologize?
Who today is 'the South' that engaged in slavery and who can speak for them?

 
Old 12-06-2016, 03:45 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider275452 View Post
Are you aware there were black soldiers who fought for the confederacy?
Yes, but folks don't want to talk about that, because that screws with the line of thinking that the war was 'all' about slavery, not tariffs and states freedoms to own that which they produce independent of a centralized system of government. They fail to take into account what the black confederate soldier may have been thinking to offer up his death in a fight over such freedom. (there are letters and diaries written by the black confederate soldier, that are at the libraries, displayed for all to read if one is of a mind to do so and understand the true nature of life then)

The war as with most wars was over the establishment of a system of government. People though label these wars as religious wars with religious reasons, or, civil wars with human rights reasons. While both these reasons (may also apply) have a sense of nobility to them, the foundation for the wars, is the establishment of a system of government. The government is then built, not on love of humanity, but from death and destruction ... of all those who participate and even by those who don't, who are then deemed, (labeled) collateral damage.

Over 3000 years of wars and death and all people have learned from it, is how to do it better, more gruesome, more horrifying than before.

Are we there yet?
 
Old 12-06-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by boxus View Post
The South was defeated and ceased to exist, so there was no one to apologize.
I will add the US apologized in 2009 or something like that, in which the former CSA states are part of.
 
Old 12-06-2016, 03:50 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 29 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by 8won6 View Post
anything not to accept responsibility. lmao


slavery existed all over the world before this. even in Europe. "everybody was doing it". Why are whites so pressed not to claim this specific 'instance' of slavery/slave trade? was it somehow worse than the other times? was it for some strange reason SO bad that it's inexcusable?
Probably because the other thing people fail to discuss is that the whites were the first to be bought and sold into slavery by pirates ... selective discussions.
 
Old 12-06-2016, 03:50 PM
 
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My understanding is that in jurisprudence apologies can open a party up to civil law suits.
 
Old 12-06-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by MAcapulco View Post
We had a Civil War about this.

So. Anything from Virginia on down...

Did they ever apologize?
Yep, they apologized, you were on your cell phone while driving and missed it.


Should have been there, it was very moving.


Next question?
 
Old 12-06-2016, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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So, who do you think should apologize to whom? This is just bs. Nobody alive today is responsible for anything that happened back then.
 
Old 12-06-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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So, who do you think should apologize to whom? This is just bs. Nobody alive today is responsible for anything that happened back then.
Could you even imagine if some white guy walked up to a black person and apologized for slavery?

Would the black person think the white guy was crazy, high, playing a joke or trying to be insulting?

Daniel Tosh should try it.
 
Old 12-06-2016, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by MAcapulco View Post
We had a Civil War about this.

So. Anything from Virginia on down...

Did they ever apologize?
Did the Scorpion ever apologize to the Frog?
 
Old 12-06-2016, 05:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider275452 View Post
You are wrong for the most part, there was some slavery in the north, but not enough to amount to anything significant.
That's like saying she's a little pregnant. Either she is or she isn't.

1 million slaves in the South or 1000 slaves in the North is still slavery.
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