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Old 12-06-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announces that the repeal of Obamacare will be the first priority of the new incoming Congress under Donald Trump.
What's keeping him? Pass it in Congress, and have it on Trump's desk on Day-1. He'll repeal it, subsidized policies will be canceled, and GOP will be happy again.
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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Good luck with that but there will be very bad news for hospitals thru out the USA. They will lose money big time:

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The American Hospital Association and the Federation of American Hospitals laid out their concerns in letters sent Tuesday to Trump, Vice President-elect Mike Pence, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who will become minority leader next year.
Hospitals Issue Dire Warnings About Repealing Obamacare Without A Backup Plan | The Huffington Post
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Honest question here...how is a different plan going to reduce the cost of health insurance? You are buying ACA policies at rates set by insurance companies. If you remove the mandate you reduce the number of healthy insured so that will raise the rates..

So unless part of the plan is to limit fees paid to doctors and hospitals the only way I can see rates dropping is by reducing coverage..and how much reduction will people tolerate? Some of those cheap pre ACA policies had an annual cap of 50k and a lifetime cap of 150-200k, what happens to you if you have a policy like that and end up with some catastrophic illness or accident?

Trump says he wants to keep coverage for pre-existing conditions, but is he going to allow insurers to raise rates for people who have those conditions? How will they ever pay for it?

An argument I hear is that only young women should be covered for pregnancy, ok I get that but if you spread the cost of child birth only among women of child bearing age the cost would be prohibitive.

Trump and Ryan want to get rid of expanded medicaid...what happens to those people?
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announces that the repeal of Obamacare will be the first priority of the new incoming Congress under Donald Trump.



Horray! What great news. Of course the repeal should be pretty easy and the real task will be passing a healthcare reform plan that actually works this time. Here is looking forward to them doing it.
So in the past six years, the Republicans have had plenty of time to come up with what they want to replace Obamacare with. I wonder what it will be since they haven't bothered to tell us yet. I don't suspect it to be all that good, plus I am wondering how much of Obamacare they actually want to get rid of because much of it is actually very good for the American people.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So in the past six years, the Republicans have had plenty of time to come up with what they want to replace Obamacare with.
It's a fallacy to suggest Republicans have to come up with any plan to replace Obamacare.

In fact, considering the damage the federal government has historically done to health plan coverage through its short-sighted policies and legislation since 1942, it's time for the federal government to bow out and let the States deal with the situation.
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Old 12-06-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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Get rid of the BS mandated services in Obamacare and rates will go down. Men don't need maternity benefits, 99.9% of the population doesn't need transexual surgery, most don't need addiction treatment, etc. You want those services, you pay for them in your premiums.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:04 PM
 
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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announces that the repeal of Obamacare will be the first priority of the new incoming Congress under Donald Trump.



Horray! What great news. Of course the repeal should be pretty easy and the real task will be passing a healthcare reform plan that actually works this time. Here is looking forward to them doing it.
Partisans like you that believe everything a politician from your party says is a big reason why this country is in trouble.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:10 PM
 
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Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announces that the repeal of Obamacare will be the first priority of the new incoming Congress under Donald Trump.



Horray! What great news. Of course the repeal should be pretty easy and the real task will be passing a healthcare reform plan that actually works this time. Here is looking forward to them doing it.


It's not great news for the millions whose healthcare will be taken away. And republicans don't have a plan to replace it. It makes me so sad to see our fellow americans not care about each other. It's extremely disheartening and pretty disgusting.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:10 PM
 
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It's a fallacy to suggest Republicans have to come up with any plan to replace Obamacare.

In fact, considering the damage the federal government has historically done to health plan coverage through its short-sighted policies and legislation since 1942, it's time for the federal government to bow out and let the States deal with the situation.
It isn't a fallacy, are you saying we should just go back to letting insurance companies go unregulated. Letting them decide what the healthcare insurance rules are, letting them decide if someone can or cannot have insurance, letting them be able to cancel someone's insurance the moment they need to use it? These are the things that were possible before ACA. Are you suggesting we go back to that?
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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It's not great news for the millions whose healthcare will be taken away. And republicans don't have a plan to replace it. It makes me so sad to see our fellow americans not care about each other. It's extremely disheartening and pretty disgusting.
Exactly.
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