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When Obama did a DOZEN things BIGGER than a phone conversation with Taiwan that angered China...the media did not make a stink of it. It did not make big news. There was no questioning and howling. There were no Democrats (or even Republicans) in here bemoaning that this could be the start of WW3.
Obama's actions you have to google to find, because the media covered them in passing. With a small sentence that China did their usual protest over it. No sensationalism - no blasting Obama.
Complaining about Trump's phone call to Taiwan and the massive media attention is FAKE news. It is contrived to delegitimize Trump - NOT because they truly care about not angering China over Taiwan otherwise Obama's DOZEN actions for Taiwan against China would have driven a media crap storm.
I agree with you except, "Complaining about Trump's phone call to Taiwan".
Trump was called BY Taiwan. he did NOT initiate the call.
All the Fake News claims are hilarious. Fake News were used extensively during the campaign, mostly against Clinton, and yes, they were proven fake. But now the Trumpeteers claim EVERYTHING even slightly critical of Trump is FAKE NEWS
It's called "burying your head in the sand".
This from a poster who was quick to condemn the 'alt right' on another thread about the Muslim girl who claimed some white men harassed her in NYC, and has not said anything on that thread since the girl admitted she made the story up. You are part of the sad, pathetic, small minded left who cannot wait for any claim, on ANY web site, that gives you a chance to vent your election anger at Trump and Republicans/Conservatives.
your candidate is a loser, your political party is losing more each day. Your baseless accusations do more to vindicate the wisdom of those who voted for Trump than they do to further your anti American, leftist crusade. Keep up the good work. We need out of touch zealots like you to continue making our case for the failure of far left liberalism in America.
Last edited by CaseyB; 12-15-2016 at 08:22 AM..
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Well at least there will be an investigation, amazing how so many people accepted foreign powers hacking a particular candidates emails because it gave them insight. No issues there??
I agree , let Biden and others run this time and keep the other two from running all together.
So you have proof from WikiLeaks, I guess on balance that equals hacking the DNC & DCCC with tens of thousands of emails exposed.
No I did not say proof. And I did not say the Russians did not try to hack the DNC etc. I simply put forward that they also hacked Republicans. I know that is an inconvenient truth. Perhaps the reality is the Russians hacked the democrats and some republicans but never released the emails to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks got the emails from a whistle blowing democrat as they stated. The Podesta emails were obtained by an amateurish phishing exercise not hacking.
I am dubious to the conclusions of Brennan whose conclusions differ from the FBI, UDNI and statements by WikiLeaks. Brennan who has a conflict of interest in putting this kind of thing forward. A conflict of interest because he worked on Obama's campaign and publicly stated he was hopeful to work under Clinton. Clearly with Trump in the White House Brennan is unemployed. He personally benefits if by some wild stretch electors switch to Clinton.
As far as I can tell, there is virtually nobody who is objecting to an investigation of this matter.
However, the attempts by Obama, Hillary, the media and the Democrat left to discredit the results of the election and undermine our electoral process is despicable beyond words and something that any responsible American will object to very much.
Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had asked the FBI, NSA, Office of the Director of National Intelligence and CIA to meet with committee members on Thursday, and called their refusal "unacceptable."
The briefing was not requested to be at the director level, meaning that National Intelligence Director James Clapper, CIA Director John Brennan and their counterparts were not expected to attend.
“It is unacceptable that the Intelligence Community directors would not fulfill the House Intelligence Committee’s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber-attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign,†Nunes said in a statement Wednesday.
I will say this one more time -- the Washington Post published an article with an "un-named source" from the CIA claiming that Russian Government Hackers tried to tilt the election to Donald Trump - the "un-named CIA dude/dudess also claimed their was "consensus" on this charge of obstruction our elections. The FBI and the DNI later disputed this statement. The CongressCritters on the Left almost immediately called for Intelligence Briefings by the Intelligence Community to the Presidential Electors on this "election tampering to Elect Donald Trump" - Camp Clinton agreed that the Electors should be briefed. Several websites were created and Lawyers associated with the Clinton AND the Obama Administration are writing Op-Eds offering "free" Legal Service to Electors who want to Vote against their State Vote and become "faithless Electors". Actions to attempt to convince Electors to "change" their Votes from the Vote of their State ..... sounds a lot like "election tampering" to me. They certainly have the right under the Law in most States to do that ..... but this is different, It's a concerted effort that is playing out in the Media to get them to be 'faithless electors". I have NEVER seen such a thing - the Hysteria from the Leftists over Hillary Clinton being rejected by the American People is astounding.
The Washington Post AND an "un-named CIA person" dropped a bomb and now, the entire Intelligence Community is stonewalling the Intelligence Congressional Committee while they try to figure out how to do a Clean Up on Aisle 3.
Leaking to the Washington Post anonymously is OK - going on the record to Congress, not so much.
This from a poster who was quick to condemn the 'alt right' on another thread about the Muslim girl who claimed some white men harassed her in NYC, and has not said anything on that thread since the girl admitted she made the story up. You are part of the sad, pathetic, small minded left who cannot wait for any claim, on ANY web site, that gives you a chance to vent your election anger at Trump and Republicans/Conservatives.
your candidate is a loser, your political party is losing more each day. Your baseless accusations do more to vindicate the wisdom of those who voted for Trump than they do to further your anti American, leftist crusade. Keep up the good work. We need out of touch zealots like you to continue making our case for the failure of far left liberalism in America.
That's pretty nasty language peppered with personal insults, lies and false claims even after mods cleaned it up.
Keep your anger issues to yourself.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 12-15-2016 at 08:36 AM..
No I did not say proof. And I did not say the Russians did not try to hack the DNC etc. I simply put forward that they also hacked Republicans. I know that is an inconvenient truth. Perhaps the reality is the Russians hacked the democrats and some republicans but never released the emails to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks got the emails from a whistle blowing democrat as they stated. The Podesta emails were obtained by an amateurish phishing exercise not hacking.
I am dubious to the conclusions of Brennan whose conclusions differ from the FBI, UDNI and statements by WikiLeaks. Brennan who has a conflict of interest in putting this kind of thing forward. A conflict of interest because he worked on Obama's campaign and publicly stated he was hopeful to work under Clinton. Clearly with Trump in the White House Brennan is unemployed. He personally benefits if by some wild stretch electors switch to Clinton.
Well McCaul indicated they hacked into the RNC, then he changed his mind.
John McCain indicated it was the Russians.
Assuming they did hack into both the RNC and DNC don't you find it odd that they have not released any of the RNC emails, now why do you suppose that is the case.
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The House Homeland Security chair said Wednesday that hackers affiliated with Russia have also breached the Republican National Committee, though he later said he "misspoke."
“It’s important to note, Wolf, that they have not only hacked into the DNC, but also into the RNC,” Rep. Michael McCaul first told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
The Texas Republican continued: “So they are not discriminating one party against the other. The Russians have basically hacked into both parties at the national level.”
Well McCaul indicated they hacked into the RNC, then he changed his mind.
John McCain indicated it was the Russians.
Assuming they did hack into both the RNC and DNC don't you find it odd that they have not released any of the RNC emails, now why do you suppose that is the case.
Spend some now, save some for later. If Putin isn't satisfied with Trump as his puppet, he can release RNC info, or use it to blackmail Trump.
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