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I have relatives in Sweden and Norway, a high school teacher, nurse and a factory worker. They all have enough expendable income to fly to the US every few years, go on cruises and two of the three own second vacation homes. Doesn't sound all that bad to me
Then you'll have no objection if the US emulated their tax system, no?
Only 3 tax brackets
Lower the federal income tax rates to a top rate of only 25%
Flatten the brackets so that the middle class and above are in the same tax bracket
Implement a 25% VAT tax
Then you'll have no objection if the US emulated their tax system, no?
Only 3 tax brackets
Lower the federal income tax rates to a top rate of only 25%
Flatten the brackets so that the middle class and above are in the same tax bracket
Implement a 25% VAT tax
The scandinavian countries don't all operate the same tax bands nor rates.
Its disingenious to present a one size fits all approach.
But i think you'll find that the answer is yes.
I'll take a Scandinavian tax rate for the same services and benefits.
Of course, some major problems are that those countries citizens generally agree about the entire purpose of having a country and a tax system is to work toward the betterment of all, while in the US it's more of a every-man-for-himself and ********* attitude.
Actually, that's not true. I specifically posted the OECD's definition
No, you just posted the average of Bill Gates and Joe Sixpack and presented it as the median American. Average is useless. Median income adjusted for working hours and benefits is of course a much more reasonable comparison.
No, it is not. It might be in Norway, but only because of their high COL. Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland have much lower minimum wages.
Nope. Effective minimum wage in Denmark for fast food workers for example is $20 an hour and much, much better benefits (overtime, sick pay, health care, paid vacation time, parental leave etc).
Why replace them? People don't vote conservative, moderate, or liberal. They vote Republican, Democrat, or Independent. And in a 2-party poll, Democrats do indeed get Food Stamps at a rate of more than 2 to 1 compared to Republicans. That newer data just verifies the accuracy of the Maxwell Poll data that in a 2-party comparison, the Democrat voters' share of Food Stamp recipients is 69% while the Republican voters' share of Food Stamp recipients is only 31%.
Percent of adults who have received Food Stamps:
Republican: 10%
Democrat: 22%
Independent: 17%
Easy to see who are the contributors, and who are the takers.
Except you have provided no evidence how the Independents lean and the Pew Poll I posted did just that and found an equal # of conservatives, moderates and independents were "moochers". Quit trying to spin the data, it doesn't work.
Then you'll have no objection if the US emulated their tax system, no?
Only 3 tax brackets
Lower the federal income tax rates to a top rate of only 25%
Flatten the brackets so that the middle class and above are in the same tax bracket
Implement a 25% VAT tax
Nope I have no problem with the way it really works, but that's not really illustrated with your magical math. As I said, I know first hand what kind of living standard Scandinavians enjoy and it's enviable.
Nope. Effective minimum wage in Denmark for fast food workers for example is $20 an hour and much, much better benefits (overtime, sick pay, health care, paid vacation time, parental leave etc).
US: $5.04
Denmark: $4.44
Australia: $4.30
Euro area: $4.21
Its a myth that prices are so high Europe compared to America even though minimum wage workers in America are making starvation wages.
There is no minimum wage in Denmark, they have a strong union. (not saying that's good or bad)
You can absolutely pay McD's employees more and give them benefits etc....they'll just hire elite workers.
If you net the wages after tax the gap closes quite a bit but then again they still have all the benefits so unquestionably they have a much sweeter deal.
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Social Security doesn't need fixing. If there's a gap, just take the limit off which is currently $118K. Republicans are just trying to use these four years to destroy Social Security and Medicare while giving themselves massive tax cuts. Everyone knew this was coming. I'm not a senior so if seniors want to fight for this, they have to fight vocally. Otherwise, they lose and frankly they deserve to lose since they voted for Trump.
Great! Does that mean I'm no longer a 'Senior'? If so, could ya convince my creaky knees of that?
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