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Old 12-11-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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Isn't it quite obvious by now that his words and actions don't match up?

It's even more obvious to me how carefully he tries to speak "uhhh.... uhmm... (let me search for the safest word that makes me look really good here)."

I can't believe more people aren't immensely disappointed at this failure of a president who promised REAL change. Was he talking about his underwear or what?

 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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Isn't it quite obvious by now that his words and actions don't match up?

It's even more obvious to me how carefully he tries to speak "uhhh.... uhmm... (let me search for the safest word that makes me look really good here)."

I can't believe more people aren't immensely disappointed at this failure of a president who promised REAL change. Was he talking about his underwear or what?
General Motors is alive and OBL is Dead

Stock Market has nearly tripled

Unemployment is 4.6% down from 10.2%

Gas is slightly above $2.00

20 million have healthcare that didn't have it before

Out of Iraq

Iran agreement - preventing a proxy war by Israel

Major Climate Agreement

No scandals of any kind

Get my drift and more where that came from!
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Isn't it quite obvious by now that his words and actions don't match up?

It's even more obvious to me how carefully he tries to speak "uhhh.... uhmm... (let me search for the safest word that makes me look really good here)."

I can't believe more people aren't immensely disappointed at this failure of a president who promised REAL change. Was he talking about his underwear or what?
Obama was stymied by a republican congress who made it their life's mission to block anything he tried to do. That's not Obama's fault. A president is not a totalitarian dictator he still must work within the four corners of the Constitution.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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If Trump was dealing with a Democrat-controlled Congress he'd be spinning his wheels too. The president only has so much power.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Isn't this somewhat true of any president, even one with decent communication skills? They are trying to get they're message out to so many people, and people and pundits who are all over the place in how they think and how they are going to perceive what would seem to be the simplest of messages.

So the communication gets diminished by trying to "split the difference" between the extremes and fall somewhere in the middle, and as a result it ends up feeling disingenious and stifled, as opposed to a message that is delivered to a small and like minded group of trusted associated.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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"Why can't some people see past Obama's superficiality?"

People on the Left are incredibly susceptible to star struck, emotional personality cults.

Rational analysis is hard to find on the Left.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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Isn't it quite obvious by now that his words and actions don't match up?

It's even more obvious to me how carefully he tries to speak "uhhh.... uhmm... (let me search for the safest word that makes me look really good here)."

I can't believe more people aren't immensely disappointed at this failure of a president who promised REAL change. Was he talking about his underwear or what?
Look up above and read wilful's post. Did you miss that somehow? You think the man did nothing? You people will stop at nothing with your partisanship. I guess the luster of Trump's win has worn off and you need to go back to pissing and moaning.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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General Motors is alive and OBL is Dead

Stock Market has nearly tripled

Unemployment is 4.6% down from 10.2%

Gas is slightly above $2.00

20 million have healthcare that didn't have it before

Out of Iraq

Iran agreement - preventing a proxy war by Israel

Major Climate Agreement

No scandals of any kind

Get my drift and more where that came from!
Obama is a leader and a true statesman.

He left the country much better off than it was prior to taking office.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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General Motors is alive and OBL is Dead
- maybe. No proof. Also GM is building their factories in foreign countries

Stock Market has nearly tripled
- quantative easning and fed intrest rates at 0

Unemployment is 4.6% down from 10.2%
- fake , i don't have a job and all my friends are underemployed

Gas is slightly above $2.00
- because of fracking, something Obama fought tooth and nail to stop

20 million have healthcare that didn't have it before
- and everybody else's rates skyrocketed. I still don't have it

Out of Iraq
- and it's an ISIS infested cesspool of death btw there are still US forces there and now also in many other areas we werent before, syria, lybia, etc

Iran agreement - preventing a proxy war by Israel
- for $170 billion and history will tell if they develop a nuke (think NKorea)

Major Climate Agreement
- who does this help?

No scandals of any kind
- benghazi? Ransom to Iran? Clinton server? Operation fast&furious? Unconstitutional executive orders?

Get my drift and more where that came from!
I get your drift. They're 1/2 ass accomplishments. Look at race relations, riots in the streets, civil unrest etc is worse than ever in my lifetime.
 
Old 12-11-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I am not a fan of Obama but he has done some good things and he has done some things that make a sane person scratch their heads and wonder if he actually likes America.

As for his stuttering speech patterns it is like he is searching for the right words knowing how they will be dissected by the right or is he channeling his inner Martin Luther King.?
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