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The Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities."
HMMMM...It seems to me that every candidate, news outlet, celebrity, major and minor donors, man on the street, C-D poster and their dogs did (and are still doing) their damnedest to interfere with or influence the election.
It also seems to me that what was leaked by WikiLeaks was at least the TRUTH compared to the dung that was and still is being spewed by most of these entities.
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HMMMM...It seems to me that every candidate, news outlet, celebrity, major and minor donors, man on the street, C-D poster and their dogs did (and are still doing) their damnedest to interfere with or influence the election.
It also seems to me that what was leaked by WikiLeaks was at least the TRUTH compared to the dung that was and still is being spewed by most of these entities.
Please fix the stupid missing bracket in your reply because it looks like you're debating me, NOT Flat and Flat.
Look for the "end quote" and insert that bracket that somehow got deleted.
I fixed it on this one.
Edit: Thanks, man.
Last edited by Three Wolves In Snow; 12-11-2016 at 11:25 AM..
Its going to happen. There have been Bi-Partisan calls for a full Congressional Investigation. The Director of National Intellegence publicly said there was Russian involvement. How could anyone give Russia cover?
It's not Benghazi and a Democrat is not involved so all is good.
OK. Congress will go about their business regardless. Maybe we'll learn something. Maybe not.
I'd be all in favor of learning more! We shouldn't be getting hacked by anyone. Not the Russians. Not the Chinese. Not anyone. So we do need to plug the holes and ensure that this can't happen in the future.
It is interesting that the Russians worked against HRC here. That tells me that they're scared of her. This is understandable. Her rhetoric and her plans for Syria would have put us on the brink of nuclear war.
Still we should get to a point where the news media isn't a propaganda machine and wholly owned subsidiary of the DNC. We need to get to a point where Russia and other foreign governments are not capable of hacking into anything that would allow them to meddle in our election process. That's on the GOP and DNC to up their game and secure their crap!!
I don't think anyone is trying to silence it. I think there's a lot of us who find the timing and vagueness of the allegations to be awfully convenient for anyone who desperately wants to stop Donald Trump from taking office. Honestly, how I feel about all if it depends on the specifics -- and we don't have any of those yet.
Here's my take on this thing:
I still don't care who won, but I do think that all of this hysteria is doing significant damage to the integrity of our electoral system.
First it's suspiciously late-hour recounts. Now it's hacking.
If this doesn't prevent Trump from being inaugurated, what will the Dems try next??
Why wasn't this big news a lot sooner than now? The timing is awfully suspicious.
I don't really care so much about Trump in particular. I'm more troubled by the damage done to our electoral process.
We're hearing a lot of vagaries about Russian hacking. Why are no specifics being offered? Is it because we don't have any?
Why are the FBI and CIA not in agreement here if it's so clear and obvious?
If we're talking about messing with vote totals, then I'm outraged. If we're talking about shining the light of day on Clinton and the DNC's corruption, then it's no different than any journalist getting a hot lead on shady political dealings.
If that's what we're talking about, you can't stuff the genie back in the bottle. The American people now know all about it and you can't just erase it from their collective memories.
At the end of the day, any entity with their own biased agenda should never be allowed to interfere in our election process.
CNN, the New York Times, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News and countless others actively tried to get Hillary elected and actively did everything they could to stop Trump.
The same can be said for the EU countries and countless of your more liberal nations in the world.
This is just as unacceptable as Russian interference. What is being done about that and where is the outrage -- especially in regard to the news media bias?
The DNC, the Clintons and all Democrats need to up their cyber-security game significantly. If you got hacked, then the blame is primarily on you.
We all remember Mitt Romney's 47% quote. Very few people remember that is was just as illegally gotten as the hacks this year.
The information gathering by the DNC to get that Romney quote was almost exactly like the whole Watergate fiasco and just as illegal.
For some reason we didn't have a do-over election in 1972 and 2012. For some reason, there was no Watergate-like witch-hunt sent after the Obama Administration or the DNC or anyone else in 2012. Why is that?
I would be 100% in favor of the elections being completely free of biased meddling across the board. How about we make that a goal for 2020?
If we find out that the Russians changed the actual vote tallies or something like that then we need to deal with this now. Otherwise, just let it be. The GOP and DNC need better security. "The dog ate my homework!" and "Russian hackers stole my election!" should both be equally nonsensical excuses.
I agree with every word of this plus would like to add: Where in the ^*%# are the investigations into the threats on life and safety of the members of the Electoral College done in an attempt to force the electors to become faithless? That constitutes undo influence on an election if there ever was an example. It is a deliberate attempt to hijack our election through intimidation.
I really wish people would quit making me have to defend Trump, of all people. Gawd, I can not stand the man, and haven't been happy about his election shenanigans since the day he announced. Of course, it seems like most of the people trying to run around the results now were the ones laughing at the GOP like hyenas in the summer when he won the nomination. You created him, he's all yours, and unfortunately mine also. Get over it.
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I agree with every word of this plus would like to add: Where in the ^*%# are the investigations into the threats on life and safety of the members of the Electoral College done in an attempt to force the electors to become faithless? That constitutes undo influence on an election if there ever was an example. It is a deliberate attempt to hijack our election through intimidation.
I really wish people would quit making me have to defend Trump, of all people. Gawd, I can not stand the man, and haven't been happy about his election shenanigans since the day he announced. Of course, it seems like most of the people trying to run around the results now were the ones laughing at the GOP like hyenas in the summer when he won the nomination. You created him, he's all yours, and unfortunately mine also. Get over it.
Yeah it's sad that you have to point out so much common sense to so many people who are desperately trying to stop Trump. It sucks to have to defend a man who I wouldn't have voted for in a million years. But the hysterics and stupidity and hypocrisy is just so blatant!
I'd love to know why nobody but probably Fox News is holding Obama's feet to the fire over failing to investigate threats against electors. Honestly, I think that we just need to transition to a virtual elector system. You win Wyoming, you get your three electoral votes and no human beings attached to them.
Its going to happen. There have been Bi-Partisan calls for a full Congressional Investigation. The Director of National Intellegence publicly said there was Russian involvement. How could anyone give Russia cover?
I'd rather someone investigate Podesta.
As an aside it would be nice--and less morally hypocritical--if the US stayed out of other nations elections. Of course, we know that is never going to happen unless someone nukes the US.
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