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Old 12-30-2016, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Yep, Trump gave lavrov a plastic reset button to restart Russian/US relations. Hillary sat down with Russia in a love fest embracing putin and russia


Trump renegged on a promise of defensive missles to Poland to please putin.


Trump gave Putin 25% of our uranium supply


Trump defended Putin and Russia to Mitt Romney.


Putin appreciated hearing from obama that he'd have more latitude after the 2012 election. wonder what that careless whisper was all about.


So you are saying a community organizer has more innate knowledge in foreign relations vs a business man who does business across the globe???


US policy encourages US business to be conducted globally to encourage partnerships with nations not on the sanctions list. Apparently Trump is a patriot.


It is crystal clear obama nad hillary have been the puppets of Putin.


Putin now is playing the democrats by pretending to favor trump. He knows the dems will respond by trying to delegitimize trump's presidency to further divide America, something obama did his best to accomplish. The puppet master and the puppet, obama, appear to have the same goals.
What part of this is factual? None.

America is in some serious with such confused people
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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GOM

This is America and you and the rest of the minority not majority that voted this fool into office
I'm not GOM (and I didn't vote for Trump), but Hillary didn't get a majority either. Hillary got a plurality of the people who happened to vote in the election. The people who happened to vote in this election = a subset of all registered voters, and all registered voters = a subset of all eligible voters. All eligible voters = closest to defining 'the American people'.

Also, when EC votes in our system are the prize, the overall popular vote is irrelevant. If the national popular vote TOTAL (not the National Popular Vote movement) had been the prize, candidates would have had different strategies re their campaigning.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Default What will all the Putin fans going to say if Trump agrees with the sanctions?

We are seeing something I never imagined I'd see here, which is dozens of Republican voters openly admiring and supporting Vladimir Putin, while denying any wrongdoing from Russia in US elections. This is clearly due to the fact that Trump does the same. What the leader does, so do the followers.

They spend a great deal of time cheering Putin, and trashing US imposed sanctions, and deportation of Russian spies.

My question is what these people will say of Trump flip-flops and suddenly agrees with the intelligence community that meddling did in fact take place and says the sanctions were the right call? Practically all Republican Congress reps already agree with this, but Trump, and his voters do not (not yet).
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Close to 1/2 the voters in the United States voted Trump & you want to pretend it's Russia? Ask the laborers of America. Or the farmers. Or the unions. Or the military. Hell the NEA (teacher's union & largest labor union in America) saw 1/3 of their members vote Trump. TEACHERS! 1/3 of Hispanics voted Trump. 1/3 of all minorities voted Trump. You candidate sucked & your party is so crooked people abandoned it. Instead of asking yourself intelligently how you could get those voters back, instead you call them racists, misogynists & Russian agents. Wake up & smell the coffee.
Yes , sad how easily voters were fooled by an egomaniac and some voters
are indeed some of those things you listed.
My point was that Russia swayed the election in Trump's favor by continually hammering
us with false stories and conspiracies about Clinton.
Stories that were not true .
They sowed many seeds of doubt and from I gathered when
talking to Trump supporters before the election, people believed
all of it. Comey was a huge factor and we still don't have the whole story on
what that was all about but one can connect the dots.

Just look at how you label Clinton as crooked, that's what many said but when
push came to shove there was nothing to back it up.Trump has been convicted of
being crooked so it baffles the mind .

People voted for Trump because he promised things that can't and won't be delivered,
they loved the three word sentences, easy to grab . Voters want simplicity in their lives,
he made it easy, lock her up, build the wall, etc.
Top it off with Americans watch reality tv 24 hours a day,
they think it is all about winning. They don't care that Trump can't even put together
a coherent statement on anything other than how great he is.

Time will tell how Trump will do as president but from
what we see so far it is not looking good for any of us.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Yes , sad how easily voters were fooled by an egomaniac and some voters
are indeed some of those things you listed.
My point was that Russia swayed the election in Trump's favor by continually hammering
us with false stories and conspiracies about Clinton.

Stories that were not true .
Can you give us a list of false stories about Clinton that were released by the Russians?
  • Are you talking about Donna Brazille & CNN who helped Hillary cheat the Debates.
  • Are you taking about Debbie Wasserman Shultz who resigned as head of DNC in disgrace for rigging the primary against Bernie Sanders?
  • Are you talking about the 10s of 1000s of Hillary Clinton State Department emails that ended up on the sexual pervert, Anthony Wiener's laptop?
  • Are you talking about the the MSM pundits and reporters who were proven to have colluded with the Clinton campaign.
  • Are you talking about the big money donations from some of the worst brutal dictatorships in the world?
Or was it something else. Please elaborate.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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Absolutely! Only USA has right to interfere in some country election.
I'm really not sure what you planned to achieve with this comment.

No country should influence another country's elections. Period.

I'm at the point where I feel only an idiot could possibly see this issue as anything other than purely political. Everyone praising Putin, who's policies are all about big government, are coming from small government conservatives who's ideology could really be best described as a hatred of Obama and liberals, having no real roots in any actual principles.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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I'd say that this is just sour grapes from the outgoing moron.

0bama's attempting to ratchet up tensions with a historical adversary right before he leaves office, to booby trap his successor. Anyone with a brain, knows the modus operandi of the libs, and this current administration.

Indeed, Putin is far more effective leader, than 0bama could ever hope to be. That is a statement of fact, not an endorsement of support, or loyalty for Putin.
Only an intellectually dishonest lib would make such an assertion, and continue to push it, after it has been exposed as such.

It's sad that the libs need to be told that, but they are after all, easily confused about simple concepts like this.

In the end, 0bama is simply adding more destructiveness to his legacy. He'll do anything to destroy even the possibility that this nation can move forward, while he diligently keeps pushing it backwards.

This is just another 0bama folly, that helps cement his legacy as the most divisive, destructive potus in history. A treasonous pos.



CN
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So Donny thinks it's just time to move on to bigger and better things but will sit down next week with intelligence heads to discuss matter further. This fool is a disaster and he isn't even in the WH yet, and if he attempts to roll back the actions BO has taken he will look just like what HC called him - A Puppet!
He sure will.

How is it that a man who cannot get past a bad restaurant review, a Twitter slight, gold star parent's speech or Trump U lawsuit adverse ruling is so very willing to forgive espionage against the US, an ex-KGB dictator meddling in our elections and a nuclear arms race threat?

Inquiring minds want to know. Bigly.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'd say that this is just sour grapes from the outgoing moron.
Let's repeat the question: What will you say if Trump suddenly agrees that meddling took place, and sanctions are appropriate?

GOP Congress already agrees.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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He sure will.

How is it that a man who cannot get past a bad restaurant review, a Twitter slight, gold star parent's speech or Trump U lawsuit adverse ruling is so very willing to forgive espionage against the US, an ex-KGB dictator meddling in our elections and a nuclear arms race threat?

Inquiring minds want to know. Bigly.
Yes, and the restaurant review whine is due to Graydon Carter. He's held that grudge for 30 years!

Donald Trump Still Tormented By 'Spy' Magazine Founders : NPR
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