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My parents were the same way, so what? Tow the Line, yes, why else wouldn't you? We were taught to follow rules, for they are most certainly there for a reason...may not seem fair, but to do otherwise, eventually led to chaos...like for instance, our illegal immigration program would be a perfect example. It starts all little at first, then someone else's problem is just as serious as yours, so they should get a free ticket, and over the years, boom, now you have a problem.
Yet, no one can recognize that in today's world....
First of all, illegal immigration has nothing to do with the thread you started and since I'm pretty sure it's not the fault of the Millennials, I won't address that comment.
However, your statement that not following rules leads to chaos is not correct. Sometimes not following rules leads to the Civil Rights Movement or ends an unjust war like Vietnam or gives women the right to control their own reproduction or allows same sex couples the right to marry just like everyone else. Rule breaking and questioning the status quo is the way we move society forward for the benefit of ALL regardless of the generation they were born into.
I started competitive swimming at 8 years old....which required travel....at 13 worked at a bakery on weekends, wore my bathing suit under my clothes, and went right to swimming practice after work was done, which was from 3 a.m. in the morning, to 10 a.m. Rode my bike to practice.
yes, fun, yes, competitive, but not stressed...while a lot of my friends went to college, we didn't conscentrate on competitions, we used our minds, and acquired scholarships, and yes, some did sports, but not nearly as many as today, and what is this crap, everyone wins?
Now, you say a lot of pressure? I think everything should be looked at, as an experience, and kids shouldn't have to worry about winning all the time...sports sure are different today.
Even cheer leading has become a huge money maker. And that's what it's all about.
So tell me, how is cheer going to get a kid into college?
our generation wasn't perfect....by any means, but it just seems like we had so much more maturity, responsibility and respect for rules and the law....?
We weren't as nasty, to others....yes, we had some, but as a whole, our generation seemed so much more able...we babysat....worked, my brother had a paper route...my two sisters worked....I mean, kids don't work today? Why?
And my parents were not poor, by any means....however, we all worked...we were not given every new thing...we didn't walk around with our phones in our hands, walking into others...I mean, people can't go to a movie without their cells? they should have phones surgically implanted into their heads?
I'm sorry, I just don't see it...it's way hard to understand....
Yes, I agree. I cannot see what you are arguing about.
It was ALL about the college sports scholarship - of which my son got one. If you don't consider that high pressure - then good on you.
I see polite young people who worked their a$$es off to get into a good college; then worked harder once they got in . . .
We see the world and this generation through vastly different eyes.
I try very hard to cop an attitude, that there is good and bad in everything, and everyone....some more then others working both ways....however, in dealing with Millennials, on an every day basis, well it makes me very sad, that thru them a lot of traditional conservative ideas have been lost.
You are showing your age.
And you forget how your parents and grandparents saw your wild and crazy generation.
yes, your right, I didn't say there isn't now...but back when I was a kid, cheer sure didn't....sports were not nearly as competitive, they were more for fun. Yes, some kids were great and got scholarships, but not nearly as it is today...there is huge money in sports athletics today...way too much....
I know one person from our swim team that got a scholarship from swimming, all the rest, no. Bet we had about 60 kids on our team.
It just wasn't nearly as competitive...and to be honest, I don't believe a kid should have to deal with that much stress. I hear one mother talking about the stress on her girl for volleyball...it's incredible....????
That's a choice parents make for their children, and they can also choose to opt out. Most communities offer recreational sports for those who do not want the craziness of elite athletic programs. Signed...a swim mom
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We are more competitive because we have to be. I don't know any Millennial just doing one thing. We all work AND go to grad school part time AND hold volunteer positions AND network AND try to brush up our skills AND have side gigs or part time jobs in some iteration. In some cases, we do that while still living with our parents because the COL has skyrocketed. Friends who were able to live at home for a few years are the only ones I know able to buy a condo or home in my region - they were the smart ones.
I find in the workplace that Millennials have a sense of urgency that some of my older coworkers simply don't have. They can take their time, clock out at 5, and go back to the homes that have quadrupled in value in the past 15 years while wages have stayed fairly stagnant. I have to always be on the ball and ready for opportunities that will introduce me to new people, new markets, or new options in order to get ahead.
And yet so many millennials defend global competition.
Living like this is almost like a form of slavery, and will wear them out before their time. Still they could lose it all because some foreigner can do the job cheaper.
I'm sorry, but if kids wanted to work, there are jobs out there they could do....
and I do see them working....a lot...but a lot don't b/c their parents provide everything for them....
Some people can't afford a nanny....so I disagree there....I work with a whole lot of people that have babysitters, twice a month or more....
yes, for every issue, we could find an excuse, but the bottom line is, if a kid wants to work, there are jobs out there for them to do...believe me.
Have you talked to high schoolers in your life about finding jobs? There are some jobs, yes, but not enough for everyone that wants them. Believe ME, I have experienced this myself. Older folks couldn't understand why I was applying to so many places and getting few callbacks. I dressed nicely, was polite and friendly, and was bilingual for crying out loud! I didn't get my first "real" job until college.
Look around the next time you're at the grocery store. I remember when I was a kid that all of the baggers and cashiers were teenagers at night and on weekends. Now? Maybe 1 or 2 with most of the staff instead being elderly or obviously a little slow.
I saved every cent I made babysitting once or twice a week through high school - more around the holidays thanks to parties. At just around or below minimum wage, it didn't even cover my first year of books at school. And I was lucky! I was the oldest and could also help with homework, so I got all the babysitting gigs in my neighborhood. Younger kids had more competition and didn't get reliable gigs. Now with sites like care.com, parents can affordably hire college students or other moms looking to make some extra cash.
Many of my coworkers with children belong to babysitting coops among friends where they cut out the babysitters altogether and share childcare duties for free as needed. None of my younger cousins babysit, and it's not for lack of trying!
I'll be honest, I have a very hard time deciphering your posts due to the lack of courtesy for your readers in how you choose to forgo standards of grammar and punctuation. If I missed your point, I apologize.
The only one taking offense here seems to be you. I'm simply making observations.
Oh, so, in defense, you have a hard time deciphering my posts due to lack of courtesy? Ummmm, maybe you ought to read your own posts...works both ways....and yes, I choose to forgo grammar and punctuation...I have MS, my typing isn't the best, neither is my grammer or punctuation, if I forego that, sometimes the words come out smoothly....so I to apologize....
and this to....I grew up with boys, so while I do admit, I probably do come off aggressive and over confident, I am not...believe me....and when you have been in these forums as long as I have, you do tend to cop an attitude and always expect someone to attack you for your thoughts.
forums are discussions....and I believe we all could learn some courtesy and manners towards our readers, especially after this last election and I apologize for being curt, if I came off that way to you or anyone else here.
...It's not about team work any longer...it is so much more of a competition...in which they refuse to share knowledge...
And so quick to judge....youth at it's best....huh?
These are so unbelievably true...I thought it was just me who noticed...most especially that part about "not sharing knowledge". So many of them know how to write scripts and apps...I am not shy around a computer, and have been in tech support for both hardware and software in my early working years. I also continually take those coding classes that are offered online created and supported by some of the biggest names in pc technology, (such as Bill Gates himself) and mobile technology, to keep myself updated on trends.
I have built my own websites in the past, I know the basic languages, and I know some of the advanced languages...but it is ever changing. Just when you learn something, it's outdated and on to the next we go...but they seem to pick it up very quickly, but share what they know? No, they don't do that. But they sure do like to ask for your help when they don't know something...actually demand it as if they are entitled to it. "You're supposed to help me!" Am I? Isn't that a two-way street?
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They've left their kids run wild in public places, to scream and yell, run around stores...and spill things all over someone else's floors, without cleaning up after them. So entitled with snotty attitudes.
One of the things I hated about working as an airboat captain was this behavior. I didn't get ticked at the kids, what do they know, they're kids. I was pissed at the parents. Some parents were good, many were not, and again, even the parents had that entitlement mentality and that little Johnny could do no wrong. I would find their kids chasing and traumatizing the animals on the grounds of the business, and would tell them to stop, ask them where their parents were...nowhere to be found. Well isn't that fricken brilliant in the middle of the Everglades.
I would often catch those who snuck in, and one day, one of them decided to "report" me to my boss after I told him to pay or get off of the property. I told him to go ahead because one thing my boss hated more than anything was people stealing from him - and he viewed these people who snuck in as thieves. I told them that I would escort them straight to my boss. And then I stood there while my boss railed in to them for stealing from him, and that no, I would NOT be getting fired, get out of our establishment and do not come back. (What a delight to work for a boss who stands up to these types of people instead of cowering to their demands.)
Every time I see a parent actually parent their kid, it gives me hope that it's not completely dead...but far too many young people out there are very self-serving...more so than a typical youth. Of course it's not unheard of for young people to be self-interested over anything else, but it's beyond that these days.
Have you talked to high schoolers in your life about finding jobs? There are some jobs, yes, but not enough for everyone that wants them. Believe ME, I have experienced this myself. Older folks couldn't understand why I was applying to so many places and getting few callbacks. I dressed nicely, was polite and friendly, and was bilingual for crying out loud! I didn't get my first "real" job until college.
Look around the next time you're at the grocery store. I remember when I was a kid that all of the baggers and cashiers were teenagers at night and on weekends. Now? Maybe 1 or 2 with most of the staff instead being elderly or obviously a little slow.
I saved every cent I made babysitting once or twice a week through high school - more around the holidays thanks to parties. At just around or below minimum wage, it didn't even cover my first year of books at school. And I was lucky! I was the oldest and could also help with homework, so I got all the babysitting gigs in my neighborhood. Younger kids had more competition and didn't get reliable gigs. Now with sites like care.com, parents can affordably hire college students or other moms looking to make some extra cash.
Many of my coworkers with children belong to babysitting coops among friends where they cut out the babysitters altogether and share childcare duties for free as needed. None of my younger cousins babysit, and it's not for lack of trying!
It may have a lot to do with location...
again, I still feel there are jobs out there, ya just got to look....
in your defense, I will say this, one night My sister and I counted factories that were once in our small town, and let me tell you, we were shocked at how many....but if you have farm markets or farms around your home, movie theaters, walmart, restaurants, diners, there are jobs out there....garbage collection, paper routes, etc. I believe a lot of restaurants would rather hire a kid who lives near by rather then illegals....
I just believe it's very important for kids to break away and work...it teaches them so much in life experiences....
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