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Old 12-14-2016, 06:11 AM
 
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I want the moderates of both parties back. These extremists on both sides have screwed the American people over and over. They are only interested in their own agenda and power and how they can get reelected. They care absolutely nothing about us. They have no problem shutting down the government when they can't reach a decision. And why would they, it doesn't affect them. It affects the government workers because they don't get paid. It affects all of us. Just please give us back the back rooms deals when republicans and democrats sat down with a cigar and brandy and hashed it out.
Clinton was a moderate democrat. She lost.

On economic issues, Trump's rhetoric was actually to the left of Clinton's.

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Old 12-14-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Name calling and not addressing anything that was asked does not make you seem smart it makes you look weak and worst of all it makes you seem extremely incompetent. answer the question without being a smarty-pants or don't bother commenting at all and that comes from me the original poster.
I'm not sure what you are seeing; name calling??
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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It's called party realignment.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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Clinton was a moderate democrat. She lost.

On economic issues, Trump's rhetoric was actually to the left of Clinton's.
Hillary Clinton was not a moderate democrat on economic issues, or any other issues. (Did you catch the hacked speech where she said she "needs a public position and a private position on issues"??? )
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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In 1956, the Republican Party boasted that under Eisenhower “the Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to “repeal the minimum wage.”


In 1956, the Republican Party promised to “extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable.” Today, the lead Republican in the Senate on labor issues wants to abolish the minimum wage.


In 1956, the Republican Party proudly stated that under Eisenhower “Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to abolish Social Security.


In 1956, the Republican Party platform pledged that it would work to “assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex.” Last year, every Republican in the Senate voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act to assure equal pay for equal work.


In 1956, the Republican Party boasted that under Eisenhower “the protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers.” Today, the Republican Party wants to end unemployment benefits for hundreds of thousands of Americans who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own.


In 1956, the Republican Party was proud that under Eisenhower, “unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 million.” Today, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said that abolishing the National Labor Relations Board, the federal agency in charge of protecting the rights of workers, would be considered “progress.”


In 1956, the Republican Party said “the protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration.” Today, Republican Governors and legislators have undermined collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio and other states.


In 1956, the Republican Party pledged to “maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts.” Today, the Republican Party wants to repeal prevailing wage laws and significantly cut the pay of millions of workers.


In 1956, the Republican Party platform stated “Republican action created the Department of Health, Education and Welfare as the first new Federal department in 40 years.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to abolish the U.S. Department of Education.


Where did the GOP extremist shift originate from.



and if you can answer the question without referencing libertarians, liberals, independents or any other political party. That'd be great, thanks.
I believe it started with the "The Powell Memo" (also known as the Powell Manifesto)

The Powell Memo (or the Powell Manifesto): Text and Analysis
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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Republicans, what happened to the GOP of 60 years ago?

Same thing that happened to the Democrats.

The two parties of 60 years ago were only marginally different and usually reached consensus- Vietnam and the Civil Rights Act both had widespread bipartisan support.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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Who cares, they were losers. They did not enjoy anything close to the electoral dominance that today's Republican party enjoys.


you might want to check out Ike's and Nixon's electoral college victories there...here's a hint- Mr Trumps victory was not nearly the landslide he claims...
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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you might want to check out Ike's and Nixon's electoral college victories there...here's a hint- Mr Trumps victory was not nearly the landslide he claims...
But the GOP was a permanent minority in Congress, governorships and state legislatures.
Not true any more.
(And Ike was a moderate, if not liberal......Nixon was a moderate).
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton was not a moderate democrat on economic issues, or any other issues. (Did you catch the hacked speech where she said she "needs a public position and a private position on issues"??? )
All politicians have a public position on the issues which is distinct from their own private position.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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In 1956, the Republican Party boasted that under Eisenhower “the Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to “repeal the minimum wage.”


In 1956, the Republican Party promised to “extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable.” Today, the lead Republican in the Senate on labor issues wants to abolish the minimum wage.


In 1956, the Republican Party proudly stated that under Eisenhower “Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to abolish Social Security.


In 1956, the Republican Party platform pledged that it would work to “assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex.” Last year, every Republican in the Senate voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act to assure equal pay for equal work.


In 1956, the Republican Party boasted that under Eisenhower “the protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers.” Today, the Republican Party wants to end unemployment benefits for hundreds of thousands of Americans who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own.


In 1956, the Republican Party was proud that under Eisenhower, “unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 million.” Today, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said that abolishing the National Labor Relations Board, the federal agency in charge of protecting the rights of workers, would be considered “progress.”


In 1956, the Republican Party said “the protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration.” Today, Republican Governors and legislators have undermined collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio and other states.


In 1956, the Republican Party pledged to “maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts.” Today, the Republican Party wants to repeal prevailing wage laws and significantly cut the pay of millions of workers.


In 1956, the Republican Party platform stated “Republican action created the Department of Health, Education and Welfare as the first new Federal department in 40 years.” Today, the Texas Republican Party wants to abolish the U.S. Department of Education.


Where did the GOP extremist shift originate from.


and if you can answer the question without referencing libertarians, liberals, independents or any other political party. That'd be great, thanks.
I admire all the work you did to track down what Republicans were doing in 1956 ..... a mere 60 years ago.
To figure out how this all happened - it would be best for you to post all the LINKS to these 1956 Positions AND the LINKS to what you say are the 2016 Positions.

After we have that discussion/comparison ..... we can do the same thing with the Democrats or 1956 & 2016.
Sound Fair?
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