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Old 12-14-2016, 08:44 AM
 
Location: My House
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I think the ones who are US Citizens should be prosecuted. If they're hacking just to see if they can, they need to turn that mess over to the authorities and tell them they need stronger security. If they choose to release classified information to the public that could harm US interests, yes... they should be tried and jailed. Hacking is illegal, unless you have been permitted to do it by the person/agency whose information you're accessing.

I think those who aren't citizens who hack us just help us realize how much we need to increase security. Not much you can do unless it's a foreign government that you can sanction.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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I'm not happy it could happen but the real issue is that those charged with protecting the information did not safeguard it well enough. Doesn't mean those that disseminated the information should be held harmless, but they aren't the real concern, it's that they could get it.

As far as the DNC crap, oh well, truth hurts.
You realize that the RNC probably has some equally salacious info that wasn't released, right?

I am not for either party, but they're flip sides of the same, conniving coin.

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Old 12-14-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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You realize that the RNC probably has some equally salacious info that wasn't released, right?

I am not for either party, but they're flip sides of the same, conniving coin.

Exactly right. I'm sure many of those who cheered the leaking of DNC emails would be sputtering in fury if the RNC emails had also been leaked. Just more of the same old, good enough for thee, but not for me, crap from the right.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Snotty busybody who think other people business is their business.

I truly hope a firing squad is in Snowdens future.
Yeah, kill everyone who would dare to expose the criminality of the government! Speak on comrade!!!! /sarc
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Exactly right. I'm sure many of those who cheered the leaking of DNC emails would be sputtering in fury if the RNC emails had also been leaked. Just more of the same old, good enough for thee, but not for me, crap from the right.
Correct. These are same posters who will go Ballistic when President Obama Declassifies the CIA Intelligence on the Russian Hacking.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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The devil's in the details for me. Exposing the corruption, deceit, criminality, etc., of government/ business officials or private persons, is one thing. Disseminating the sensitive personal information (SS#, banking info, etc.) of citizens, the identity of undercover operatives, or other details that may cause harm to citizens or give aid and comfort to enemies of the state, is wholly different and unacceptable.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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The devil's in the details for me. Exposing corruption, deceit, criminality, etc., of government or business officials, is one thing. Disseminating the sensitive personal information (SS#, banking info, etc.) of citizens, the identity of undercover operatives, or other details that may cause harm to citizens or give aid and comfort to enemies of the state, is wholly different and unacceptable.
Or selectively releasing internal emails from one party and not the other in a transparent attempt to smear one side and thus influence a national election. It's not transparency if it is one-sided. That's an agenda. And that, too, should be unacceptable.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Generally, I believe they are criminals, not patriots.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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Or selectively releasing internal emails from one party and not the other in a transparent attempt to smear one side and thus influence a national election. It's not transparency if it is one-sided. That's an agenda. And that, too, should be unacceptable.
Yes. If they really did want to expose "the truth" they wouldn't be selectively releasing this stuff. They'd just release it all.

Since they do not, I can only assume there's something in it for them and it likely has a lot of zeroes attached to the end of it.

Patriots? Hardly.
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Old 12-14-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I wonder how some feel about the citizens in 1971 that broke into an FBI office in Pennsylvania and exposed COINTELRO.


"Forty three years ago, a group of brave activists clandestinely liberated documents from an FBI office that proved the existence of COINTELPRO, the government program to destroy the Freedom Movement. A new book recounts how most of the media refused to touch the story. Today, the chill is even deeper."


The Burglary And COINTELPRO: How Citizen Action Exposed FBIs Covert Illegal Program To Crush Dissent/5364987


Don't people see how important/necessary these actions are?
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