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Old 12-15-2016, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You realize there are other options between CDs and blue chip stocks. Right?
She just needs something to complain about.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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You realize there are other options between CDs and blue chip stocks. Right?
Bonds are being negatively impacted by Trump
Donald Trump blew up the bond market and changed everyone's view of interest rates

US Treasuries are at risk due to Trump's proposal for cutting US debt: Give bond holders pennies on the dollar of their original investment and wipe out US debt with the part taken from bond holder's original investment that was 'defaulted'. Who's gonna touch US bonds when Trump might give back only $16,000 of your original $20,000 principal - using your $4,000 to wipe out US debt?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us...less.html?_r=0

Then there's real estate to invest in, though some real estate seems to be reaching a bubble.

Lots of other investment choices in the market other than blue chips.

Diversification is the key. Moving more toward safety/lower risk with some assets as one gets older is often a wise choice.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Fed - not Gov't - bought debt from banks with money they themselves conjured out of thin air. No taxpayer money was needed. The Fed still owns $2.5T of our national debt, and sends $100B in interest yearly back to we the people via the Treasury.
The government has the fed print it and our government sells the debt to the world creating more debt for Americans. It is a printing press of debt that our government uses when they need more money .. That money bailed out the banks and bought all those homes in foreclosure to get them off the books of the banks.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecoll.../#5faaf40d3723
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You realize there are other options between CDs and blue chip stocks. Right?
List them and tell us what kind of interest they give. One can always pay the tax bill of others and get a bigger payout. Small pocket change .
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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China seems to be taking some damage from this. Should be interesting seeing how this mixes with all the upcoming changes.
Fed rates rise, so does the value of the USD. So the Yuan will be relatively weaker compared to the USD, making continued exports to the US that much easier for China.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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The government has the fed print it and our government sells the debt to the world creating more debt for Americans. It is a printing press of debt that our government uses when they need more money .. That money bailed out the banks and bought all those homes in foreclosure to get them off the books of the banks.


Forbes Welcome
The Fed does not print. It conjures out of thin air and exchanges for bank held debt as in QE. All inside the banking system, not for general circulation. The Fed does this through its policy. Of course as an agency of our Gov't they surely interact on policy. The Treasury is where our debt is created and sold out into the world.

The Fed was the main one to bail the banks, and not with taxpayer money. TARP may have had taxpayer money involved. All paid back, + profits as I recall. But the Fed conjured many temporary $T's in doing so. All cancelled or paid back.

http://www.levyinstitute.org/pubs/wp_698.pdf
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Wages have gone up a little, so it's time for the bankers to come along and take it back for themselves. This rate increase will cost the typical consumer (average credit card debt, equity loan, savings etc) about $250 next year. If you were a millennial hoping to get your first house now that the economy is improved, well the payment has gone up well over $100 a month. And the bankers are planning another 3 or more increases.
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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The Fed does not print. It conjures out of thin air and exchanges for bank held debt as in QE. All inside the banking system, not for general circulation. The Fed does this through its policy. Of course as an agency of our Gov't they surely interact on policy. The Treasury is where our debt is created and sold out into the world.

The Fed was the main one to bail the banks, and not with taxpayer money. TARP may have had taxpayer money involved. All paid back, + profits as I recall. But the Fed conjured many temporary $T's in doing so. All cancelled or paid back.

http://www.levyinstitute.org/pubs/wp_698.pdf
Here we go again....it was NOT paid back. The taxpayers are losers all around here
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Here we go again....it was NOT paid back. The taxpayers are losers all around here
How do you figure its not paid back, whatever "it" is?
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Old 12-15-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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How do you figure its not paid back, whatever "it" is?
If you don't know what was being discussed figure it out, research it then ask questions.
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