New Guide Released: Democrats Can Oppose Trump the Way the GOP Opposed Obama (Christmas, party)
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This is stupid and why things do NOT change. I've argued for years that you join with groups to accomplish a shared goal and then you can address your differences.
I supported BOTH the original Tea Party and OWS in their desires to stop the politicians from handing over billions to Wall Street.
If they had come together as opposed to allowing politicians (and those like yourself) to demonize one side or the other maybe we could have done it.
After the last eight years, there is no benefit to a bipartisan approach. To support Republicans now after Republicans opposed everything the last eight years would actually be destructive to the Democratic party. No one would say "Democrats are patriotic, look how they looked beyond the ugly partisanship of the past eight years to come together with Republicans." That would not happen! Democrats would be vilified and Republicans would crow that they were right. The only ones who would benefit from Democrats taking a bipartisan approach would be Republicans. The same Republicans that did not care about the country when they opposed anything and everything under a Democratic president.
A guide is being released and passed around that outlines how Democrats can continually oppose Trump over the next four years the same way Republicans opposed President Obama over eight years.
The guide argues that, like the “Tea Party patriots” who found common cause in their unified loathing of President Barack Obama, progressives who oppose Trump should stand against him before all else rather than try to articulate a policy agenda that has no hope of advancing while the GOP controls all three branches of government.
Can't argue with the logic of this. Republicans accomplished almost nothing during President Obama's terms other than attacking and for that they won it all. Crippling Trump and the GOP would be our patriotic duty.
Why do this? Is unsavory to me adding and childlike
If policy is to be opposed, ok. Oppose then take vote, try again on next policy disagreement
Last edited by theoldnorthstate; 12-15-2016 at 11:24 AM..
After the last eight years, there is no benefit to a bipartisan approach. To support Republicans now after Republicans opposed everything the last eight years would actually be destructive to the Democratic party.
I should have known better than expect you to address the actual argument.
If policy is to be opposed, ok. Oppose then take vote, try again on next policy disagreement
Unsavory? You mean taking the same approach Republicans took? Republicans vowed to opposed every single thing under Obama on the night of his inauguration. For that, they won everything.
After three hours of strategizing, they decided they needed to fight Obama on everything. The new president had no idea what the Republicans were planning.
Democrats would not be rewarded for anything that was bipartisan. All benefits would go to Republicans. The only approach beneficial to Democrats is to make Republicans own everything, then exploit any negatives. That is the reality we have seen and considering Republicans control everything over the next four years, giving Republicans any cover whatsoever will not help Democrats in any way.
I should have known better than expect you to address the actual argument.
The argument that if they had come together? Is that the argument? When did Republicans come together with Democrats on anything whatsoever? They even opposed health care for 9/11 responders! One has to give them credit for their consistency.
The argument that if they had come together? Is that the argument? When did Republicans come together with Democrats on anything whatsoever? They even opposed health care for 9/11 responders! One has to give them credit for their consistency.
The argument that if they had come together? Is that the argument? When did Republicans come together with Democrats on anything whatsoever? They even opposed health care for 9/11 responders! One has to give them credit for their consistency.
The formula is very simple. Republicans decided when Obama won the first term that they would oppose him on every issue. The logic being that if Obama looks good, they look bad. So they did everything they could to hamstring the government from working. And they succeeded. the people became so disgusted at the failure of government to get anything done that they blamed the government in power when all along it was the obstructionist republicans who were actually pulling the strings.
Well the Republican strategy worked all too well.
Democrats would be amiss in their responsibility if they did anything less or more, in this case.
Don't give this administration water if it's dying of thirst, in the desert. Investigate everything. Demand accountability. Call out every lie, misrepresentation, distortion and false narrative.
Give them nothing and jail everyone of them you can get the goods on.
The formula is very simple. Republicans decided when Obama won the first term that they would oppose him on every issue. The logic being that if Obama looks good, they look bad. So they did everything they could to hamstring the government from working. And they succeeded. the people became so disgusted at the failure of government to get anything done that they blamed the government in power when all along it was the obstructionist republicans who were actually pulling the strings.
Well the Republican strategy worked all too well.
Democrats would be amiss in their responsibility if they did anything less or more, in this case.
Don't give this administration water if it's dying of thirst, in the desert. Investigate everything. Demand accountability. Call out every lie, misrepresentation, distortion and false narrative.
Give them nothing and jail everyone of them you can get the goods on.
x 1000! That really is the formula. There is no benefit in doing otherwise. Voters will not credit Democrats for any success so the only beneficial approach is opposition. Unfortunate that that is reality.
The formula is very simple. Republicans decided when Obama won the first term that they would oppose him on every issue. The logic being that if Obama looks good, they look bad. So they did everything they could to hamstring the government from working. And they succeeded. the people became so disgusted at the failure of government to get anything done that they blamed the government in power when all along it was the obstructionist republicans who were actually pulling the strings.
Well the Republican strategy worked all too well.
Democrats would be amiss in their responsibility if they did anything less or more, in this case.
Don't give this administration water if it's dying of thirst, in the desert. Investigate everything. Demand accountability. Call out every lie, misrepresentation, distortion and false narrative.
Give them nothing and jail everyone of them you can get the goods on.
The (D)'s lost the House when Pelosi said "we have to vote on it to see what is in it".
Now you can stake winning on the odds Trump will say something stupid and he is perfectly capable of doing that OR you have to actually present a position that the people will support.
One you can control, the other you cant.
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