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I am and always have been a Republican and have supported Trump pretty much this whole electoral process. And I am a college student, so quite a rare breed at my stage of life. I completely respect opinions of moderate liberals, but the "progressives" have opinions that are so insane, I have a very hard time respecting them.
-They hate anybody who is white, male, Christian, and straight, even if they are white themselves.
-If a white person is put in prison for committing a crime, they are thrilled, but if a minority is put in jail for the exact same crime, they go nuts.
-They say that Trump is going to be the first fascist dictator of America and say how much they hate dictatorships, yet many idolize Communism and Socialism.
-If you didn't agree with Obama's policies, it was because he was black.
-They say that if we don't believe in illegal immigration, we hate all foreigners.
-If we believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman and a different term should be used for the union of same sex couples, we are homophobic.
-They say that the Catholic Church is holding them back, even though they have nothing to do with anything.
Anyway, just needed to vent. Am I the only Republican who sees the insanity here? And I will not tolerate backlash either. I want this to be a civil thread-that's literally all I ask.
I won't get into how we're defining progressive, but I'll address a few points that I take issue with.
1) If a white person is sent to jail for a crime considered unjust by progressives, it's still seen as a problem. Example, drug laws. Progressives tend to point out that these affect minorities more, but they think the crime itself is unfair, regardless of race. Nor do I hear many progressives saying Bill Cosby should be excused from any criticism or wrong doing. While oftentimes, race can play a significant enough of a role to alter the situation, most progressives would still view some criminals as deserving of punishment, even if they're black.
2) Neither communism nor socialism require dictatorship. The terms are not synonymous. Communism does have the 'dictatorship of the proletariate' clause I suppose, but when communism is defended or brought up, it's almost exclusively in the context of "advanced communism," which involves the abolition of the state, not the creation of an autocratic one. Granted, many who talk about socialism and communism, on both sides, often do not have the necessary knowledge to have an especially important opinion. Even so, most progressives who favor socialism or communism will also surely be quick to point out that nations like the Soviet Union weren't legitimately socialist, which based on the definition of socialism, is true.
3) No one "believes in illegal immigration." Quite the contrary. Progressives who do "support" it aren't so much supporting illegal immigration, but rather denying that the state does or should have the authority to control it's boarders, usually masked in some sort of altruistic reasoning, such as escaping poverty.
4) I don't know what your comment on the Catholic church is referring to. Are progressives known for being anti-Catholic?
No you are not alone in your thinking. You had people, liberals, saying crazy stuff like that back in the day and people just thought or laughed but now it is mainstreamed. It made me mad because I could sense they were really attacking and trying to marginalize people with my identity and sensibilities.
If you just imagine what people would say if they hated a culture and wanted to transform it, then the stuff progressives say start to make sense.
They act like the moral authority on everything and shove it in people's faces like the evangelicals of the past used to do.. nobody likes being preached too and told they can't say this and do that. It's why the religions fell out of favor and if the democrats aren't careful they'll fall out of favor as well. I'm all for FREEDOM.. whether it's gay rights, marijuana, or the right to go and unload 100 rounds at the range. Politicians can't understand this and think everyone needs coddling and protection from themselves and everything in life... news flash, life isn't fair.. there's only so much coddling you should do before you expose people to reality. Discomfort and pain are a necessary part of life, of growing into a person of good character.
I won't get into how we're defining progressive, but I'll address a few points that I take issue with.
1) If a white person is sent to jail for a crime considered unjust by progressives, it's still seen as a problem. Example, drug laws. Progressives tend to point out that these affect minorities more, but they think the crime itself is unfair, regardless of race. Nor do I hear many progressives saying Bill Cosby should be excused from any criticism or wrong doing. While oftentimes, race can play a significant enough of a role to alter the situation, most progressives would still view some criminals as deserving of punishment, even if they're black.
2) Neither communism nor socialism require dictatorship. The terms are not synonymous. Communism does have the 'dictatorship of the proletariate' clause I suppose, but when communism is defended or brought up, it's almost exclusively in the context of "advanced communism," which involves the abolition of the state, not the creation of an autocratic one. Granted, many who talk about socialism and communism, on both sides, often do not have the necessary knowledge to have an especially important opinion. Even so, most progressives who favor socialism or communism will also surely be quick to point out that nations like the Soviet Union weren't legitimately socialist, which based on the definition of socialism, is true.
3) No one "believes in illegal immigration." Quite the contrary. Progressives who do "support" it aren't so much supporting illegal immigration, but rather denying that the state does or should have the authority to control it's boarders, usually masked in some sort of altruistic reasoning, such as escaping poverty.
4) I don't know what your comment on the Catholic church is referring to. Are progressives known for being anti-Catholic?
Many feel that the Catholic Church, since it is very traditional in most social contexts (abortion, gay marriage, etc) is what is holding back America. I went to a Catholic high school, so I was in the majority politically there, where only really the theater kids were liberal. Now, I go to a liberal arts college, so it is crazy liberal there, and I am in the vast minority, something I am not used to.
To come straight to the point & answer the question in the thread title , America elected Trump .
I know. And they just don't get it, saying that he's "not their president." And all of my female relatives and friends and many minority members voted for him. Smh.
Many feel that the Catholic Church, since it is very traditional in most social contexts (abortion, gay marriage, etc) is what is holding back America.
Sure, people will disagree with those views, but most people, from my experience, don't have much anti-Catholic sentiment. Well, with the exception of Evangelical Christianity, which progressives tend to be more critical of as they are far more politically active than the Catholic church.
Interestingly enough, according to Pew Research data, members of the Catholic Church are actually pretty evenly split between those who identify as conservative and those as liberal, with a slight edge towards liberals. This is pretty significant when compared to Mormonism and Southern Baptism, the latter of which is highly politically active and the former seeming to become more so, which both are heavily dominated by conservatives.
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