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How about we start off with the very simple question of when has the climate ever remained the same?
Envirnmentalists believe in a garden of Eden where everything was pristine and in a perfect balance, untill mankind, the original sinners, came and ruined eveyrthing.
They ignore the dramatic and often catastrophic changes that have occured throughout the history of this planet that we had nothing to do with. We've been through ice ages, and warming periods before mini-vans and SUVs were even thought about.
But for some odd reason they are convinced that we are the cause of the mild climate change that's happening now. They're going bat**** crazy if the temperature rises or falls a few degrees when thats a completely natural phenomenon that has always been happening. The temperature is never constant.
How long is it going to take them realize that they are wrong, and finally ****?
Envirnmentalists believe in a garden of Eden where everything was pristine and in a perfect balance, untill mankind, the original sinners, came and ruined eveyrthing.
They ignore the dramatic and often catastrophic changes that have occured throughout the history of this planet that we had nothing to do with. We've been through ice ages, and warming periods before mini-vans and SUVs were even thought about.
But for some odd reason they are convinced that we are the cause of the mild climate change that's happening now. They're going bat**** crazy if the temperature rises or falls a few degrees when thats a completely natural phenomenon that has always been happening. The temperature is never constant.
How long is it going to take them realize that they are wrong, and finally ****?
Did you miss post #100 before responding, if you missed it I can understand but if you read it and still came up with this response you don't understand science.
Do you understand what a Milankovitch Cycle means?
Envirnmentalists believe in a garden of Eden where everything was pristine and in a perfect balance, untill mankind, the original sinners, came and ruined eveyrthing.
When you make up stuff about what we do and do not believe you underscore your own ignorance.
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They ignore the dramatic and often catastrophic changes that have occured throughout the history of this planet that we had nothing to do with. We've been through ice ages, and warming periods before mini-vans and SUVs were even thought about.
I have posted this twice now but apparently this bears repeating.
Yes, the climate is naturally variable. This is called the Milankovitch cycle, and it is due to orbital issues like obliquity, precession, eccentricity, etc. It is completely measurable, and is not responsible for the current climate variation because based on Milankovitch factors, we should be cooling.
The following are facts.
1.Carbon dioxide, methane, NOx, ozone, etc. are all greenhouse gases.
2.Increasing greenhouse gases increases greenhouse effect.
3. Human activities like producing concrete, and burning fossil fuels, gives off greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.
Now how much we are effecting the atmosphere is debatable, as are what the predicted effects will be.
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But for some odd reason they are convinced that we are the cause of the mild climate change that's happening now. They're going bat**** crazy if the temperature rises or falls a few degrees when thats a completely natural phenomenon that has always been happening. The temperature is never constant.
How long is it going to take them realize that they are wrong, and finally ****?
Maybe I'll post it again for good measure?
Yes, the climate is naturally variable. This is called the Milankovitch cycle, and it is due to orbital issues like obliquity, precession, eccentricity, etc. It is completely measurable, and is not responsible for the current climate variation because based on Milankovitch factors, we should be cooling.
The following are facts.
1.Carbon dioxide, methane, NOx, ozone, etc. are all greenhouse gases.
2.Increasing greenhouse gases increases greenhouse effect.
3. Human activities like producing concrete, and burning fossil fuels, gives off greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.
Now how much we are effecting the atmosphere is debatable, as are what the predicted effects will be.
Btw who do you think figured out that the climate is naturally variable? Want to take a guess? Come on you can figure it out!
I would post sources that have shown when carbon tax systems are implemented, GHG output also goes down, but lets be honest, clearly you wouldn't even pretend to read them.
I've done this countless times, but some of these people have their heads buried so deep they see and hear nothing....They act like if one doesn't believe that the climate is changing, then it all goes away....
Envirnmentalists believe in a garden of Eden where everything was pristine and in a perfect balance, untill mankind, the original sinners, came and ruined eveyrthing.
They ignore the dramatic and often catastrophic changes that have occured throughout the history of this planet that we had nothing to do with. We've been through ice ages, and warming periods before mini-vans and SUVs were even thought about.
But for some odd reason they are convinced that we are the cause of the mild climate change that's happening now. They're going bat**** crazy if the temperature rises or falls a few degrees when thats a completely natural phenomenon that has always been happening. The temperature is never constant.
How long is it going to take them realize that they are wrong, and finally ****?
Excuse me, but what the xyzx do you know about any of it? The only reason you have even heard of ice ages and warming periods is because scientists told you about them. Now you might think a few degrees warming is no biggie, but maybe when that happened in the past it was over millions of years, not in a few decades like now.
Personally I'm worried that it's too late to stop climate change, and we should concentrate our efforts on dealing with the effects.
Excuse me, but what the xyzx do you know about any of it?
As much as any of you. None of you climatologists.
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The only reason you have even heard of ice ages and warming periods is because scientists told you about them.
Yes, the same scientists that doubt the man-made climate change claims. A large number of scientists have never supported the global warming alarmist nonsense.
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Now you might think a few degrees warming is no biggie, but maybe when that happened in the past it was over millions of years, not in a few decades like now.
There is nothing out-of-the-ordinary about the current warming/cooling trend.
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Personally I'm worried that it's too late to stop climate change
It's foolish to think that we can change the climate at all.
It doesn't matter how many. They exist and their argument makes a lot more logical sense than what the proponents of man-made global warming are claiming.
It doesn't matter how many. They exist and their argument makes a lot more logical sense than what the proponents of man-made global warming are claiming.
How so? Please explain.
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