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No. But I have common sense. A judge with a swamped calendar saying a few sharp words just doesn't scare people.
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Originally Posted by Logan Savage
That's one of my biggest problems with the system . Almost every time someone does something heinous we find out they have an arrest record as long as your arm & have been slapped on the wrist & let back out numerous times .
Frankly that's one of the reasons for a bit of rough and tumble. Arrests simply don't work unless the system if interested in providing room and boad for about, in the case of this offender, 70 or 80 years.
I'll give you an analogy that you may like. In the novel White Fang Jack London describes a situation where a decent citizen, Weedon Scott and his assistant Matt comes upon a cruel dog-fighting venue operated by one Beauty Smith buried deep in the woods to avoid law enforcement. When Weedon Scott forcibly separates the bulldog that is throttling a wolf-dog named "White Fang" Mr. Smith says, "I've got my rights....That dog is mint (sic)," to which Mr. Scott replies "Correct....A man's got his rights. But you're not a man, You're a beast."
The moral of that story is that people acting in that manner no longer have the rights of people. The Bill of Rights becomes a useless parchment if society can be wrecked by its non-participants.
These repeat offenders need to be on a chain gang making little rocks out of big ones or on a farm raising their food or cleaning up our rivers , anything besides laying up in their cots & watching HBO .
Maybe I overstated the case a bit. But back in the 1950's and before the cops would often whack the "bad guys" around a bit, and they went home, maybe a bit black and blue, but with lessons learned. It worked.
I don't think police should willy-nilly kill people. But if someone, while unarmed, appears ready to overpower a police officer all bets should be off. Or if caught in the act doing what this guy was doing, to wit, putting a Home Depot employee who did nothing wrong but come to work into a hospital in critical condition.
Maybe you will get your wish. Trump told disciples at his Mobile rally that he was going to take us back. Back to the good old says.
Are not all bets off?
If a black man even looks at a police officer the wrong way - they shoot them.
Have you troubled yourself to exercise your brain? The Bill of Rights works well for people who accept the responsibilities as well as the rights that go with it.
Ah, so it's the Bill of conditional rights. The Founders plain forgot to think about the existence of criminals - but if they had, they'd clearly have made an exception. A bit extrajudicial punishemnt is hunky-dory, as long as it's directed at bad people. And people like you are setting out to fix that oversight, do I have it more or less right?
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The moral of that story is that people acting in that manner no longer have the rights of people. The Bill of Rights becomes a useless parchment if society can be wrecked by its non-participants.
Aaaand there we have it. Every tyranny in the world has embraced the idea that all you have to do to circumvent the constraints of due process is to simply declare that certain types of criminals don't deserve their rights.
It's when you're confronted with hard cases that your principles are tested. And you're not doing too well.
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Maybe you will get your wish. Trump told disciples at his Mobile rally that he was going to take us back. Back to the good old says.
Are not all bets off?
If a black man even looks at a police officer the wrong way - they shoot them.
This should play right into your wishes.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
Ah, so it's the Bill of conditional rights. The Founders plain forgot to think about the existence of criminals - but if they had, they'd clearly have made an exception. A bit extrajudicial punishemnt is hunky-dory, as long as it's directed at bad people. And people like you are setting out to fix that oversight, do I have it more or less right?
Aaaand there we have it. Every tyranny in the world has embraced the idea that all you have to do to circumvent the constraints of due process is to simply declare that certain types of criminals don't deserve their rights.
It's when you're confronted with hard cases that your principles are tested. And you're not doing too well.
Some people espouse feel-good sentiments rather than dealing with practical reality. How do you think those people should be treated?
Gee, lessee... Arrested with such use of force is necessary, charged, informed of his rights, arraigned (with assistance of counsel, if so he wishes), plead guilty or not, most likely be offered a plea deal - and if not, have his day in court - and then suffer such punishment as the law prescribes and the court finds in favor of. Because that's how civilized countries roll.
Gee, lessee... Arrested with such use of force is necessary, charged, informed of his rights, arraigned (with assistance of counsel, if so he wishes), plead guilty or not, most likely be offered a plea deal - and if not, have his day in court - and then suffer such punishment as the law prescribes and the court finds in favor of. Because that's how civilized countries roll.
Has that really persuaded anyone with rap sheets the length of your arm of the error of their ways? Hardly.
And the reason is that for them a life of crime is pretty lucrative.
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