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Old 12-20-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump should just keep his mouth shut until he is in power, he's just rocking the boat. He should wait for Jan 21 when he takes power and he represents us, until then he needs to disappear.


He should spend some time attending some security briefings, he is coming in to some very complicated situations that require some thought rather than outbursts.

 
Old 12-20-2016, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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He has had 8 years, and flat out blew it.
Perhaps you should evaluate the GOP's obstructionism. This country isn't a monarchy.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Perfect description but, when did the topic switch to Trump?

The Donald isn't digging himself a hole full of of lies, like Obama has consistently and constantly. If Obama's lips are moving, he is lying.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trump should just keep his mouth shut until he is in power, he's just rocking the boat. He should wait for Jan 21 when he takes power and he represents us, until then he needs to disappear.


He should spend some time attending some security briefings, he is coming in to some very complicated situations that require some thought rather than outbursts.
and let the partisan media, run the narrative of lies? I like how Trump has by-passed the media filter and spin. This is an awesome time to be alive in the USA.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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Please name one thing Obama did while in office that was corrupt.


You can argue with his policies, say he was ineffective, misguided, whatever. But corrupt? No, Obama's presidency is undoubtedly the cleanest in the past 50 years.
It's like you just awoke from a deep and long slumber, blissfully unaware of anything that happened for the past 8 years.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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The Donald isn't digging himself a hole full of of lies, like Obama has consistently and constantly. If Obama's lips are moving, he is lying.
He sure is-be prepared for 4 years of backtracking and "I REALLY meant to say......."
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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Fast and Furious began under President Bush. Benghazi is the most investigated incident in congressional history and the GOP could come up with absolutely no wrong doing. Warrentless domestic spying took place under President George Bush.

This weak list is the best you've got? No lying us into war, no illegal invasions of a sovereign nation, no Iran/Contra, no Watergate--you know, REAL scandals, all of which, incidentally, took place under Republican administrations.

President Obama's Administration is the most scandal-free in a century. Benghazi.
Wrong, Fast and Furious began under Obama, as oddly Bush never ran guns to Mexican drug cartels in an effort to have them used to kill Mexicans in order to turn public sentiment against guns.


Wrong, all Hillary did was claim she lost her memory and that it didn't matter, thus stonewalling the investigation. If you think it's been investigated, just let us know where Obama was that night. It's a simple question.


True that warrantless wire tapping began under Bush, which Obama rode into the ground ...and then continued and actually expanded.


The weak list he gave wasn't even the full one, which includes the subversion of multiple arms of government in order to break the law. So, yeah, all Obama has done in his list was kill a bunch of Mexicans and a few Americans, no biggie.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Until President-elect Trump is sworn in, President Obama IS the President. Perhaps you should take your own suggestion.
I agree. Today he helped to save the planet we live on that so many others are trying to destroy. Thank you again, President Obama.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Gone
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He has had 8 years, and flat out blew it.

1) He told everyone that he was going to fundamentally change America. His legacy is:

-A health care bill modest is scope, disastrous in execution, and fleeting in longevity, since it is about to be repealled.

-The total ceding of the world to Islmacists, Russia and China. (Wow, 4000,000 dead in Syria! good job "leading from behind" or whatever!).

-The over regulation of Dodd-Frank, which will also probably be repealled or modified.

-The strengthening of unilateral action through executive orders, which is only going to help Trump now (we warned him too!).


2) He wove the narrative of a new, inassailable Democratic coalition based on changing demographics, and his legacy is:

- His succesor could not grab the brass ring and was defeated by (another) political novice.
- The Senate remains Republican and will do so for at least another four years
-The House Remains Republican and will probably be so for at least another 6-8 years
- There will not be a liberal Supreme Court in my lifetime
- 66 of 99 State legislatures are Repubican
- 33 of 50 governorships are Republican.


3) He bragged about the ecomony, but his legacy of enemic growth and bogus employment numbers has caused:

-The rise of the populist right in Donald Trump
- The rise of the Socialist left in Bernie Sanders


Why doesn't he just shut up? We don't need to hear him cry about everyone and everything else when he has the lion's share of the blame. If he's mad about Russia, then he whould have listened when Mitt Romney told him they were a threat. If he's mad about news agencies, then he should have done something to curtail the blatant cheerleading that culminated in Donna Brazil trying to rig a debate for Hillary.

Obama blew it, and no longer has the right to ***** about ANYTHING.

Discuss.
He will comment on anything he pleases and I am sure it will upset you more.
 
Old 12-20-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Trump should just keep his mouth shut until he is in power, he's just rocking the boat. He should wait for Jan 21 when he takes power and he represents us, until then he needs to disappear.


He should spend some time attending some security briefings, he is coming in to some very complicated situations that require some thought rather than outbursts.
He will never shut up and is spending as much time as possible vilifying the media. He learned well that a negative campaign, rumors and fake news will damage a political opponent, so now he is using those same techniques to violate the Constitution and limit a Free Press by convincing his delusional followers anything they say or print is a lie. It's a brilliant marketing strategy, but it's also very dangerous.
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