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Just more fake news and the piece was opinion not fact. Trump is tryi9ng to bring the country together, while the left wants create a pitch battle.
What's wrong with you guys!
First of all--the excuse that the Clintons or Bush or Nixon or anyone including your dog has committed a crime or possible crime, does not excuse any illegal action on Trump or his surrogates' parts...
Just because there were 400 murders last year in Chicago, doesn't excuse ANY new murders committed going forward...
Get over your own reliance on the idea that Trump's election gave him a free pass to lie or commit various acts of treason or compromising the democratic process...
Do you think it is appropriate that a billion dollar business--the Trump Corp--is being subsidized by the US government and American taxpayers since we are paying for business travel for Trump's sons as well as Secret Service detail travel costs???
Do you think it is appropriate that there is no way to know w/o having Trump's tax returns and his business returns analyzed what level of business involvement and possible blackmail situations exist between Trump, his family/business, and countries like Russia???
Do you really think that all the obfuscating about Trump's tweets and comments re Obama's wiretapping mean that Trump was right???
If so why don't his surrogates come out and say just that?
Everything they have said in support is closely couched to shade the truth--lend support w/o actually coming out and saying the wiretapping actually happened...
The truth is that the GOP defamed Hilary Clinton for years during her term as First Lady and as Secretary of State---and they are not going to do anything to thwart Trump's irrational behavior because it suits their purposes...and because they are desperately afraid of losing their seats if he turns his base against them...
When you see your health care costs go up and your coverage shrink,
When your taxes go up despite Trump's promise to give tax release
When you see the shifting protection for air/water/food oversight in this country make it much easier for businesses to escape responsibility for their pollution and dangerous practices...
When you see pharmaceutical companies put new products on the market that have little testing due to Trump's EOs
You know who to thank...
The latest analysis of the likely GOP ACA changes indicate that the main thrust of the damage (taking away the subsidies for example) likely won't happen until after the '18 elections to protect GOP candidates or even 2020 to protect Trump's reelection...but it will happen...
The GOP governors don't want to lose Medicaid expansion so that might stay in place for a couple of years...
But big Pharma, big Insurance, big business doesn't want a BETTER health care system because the only way that happens will cut their profitability....
If you don't understand and admit that is the outcome of designing a system that has lower costs and better coverage for the majority of Americans then you likely don't recognize rain when you are standing in a thunderstorm...
Trump has NO ethical standards---he says anything, does anything to protect himself and his image...
Did he promise he would protect SS, Medicare and improve most people taxes???
Sure--I saw those clips in his campaign speeches, too...
Will he deliver?
As soon as he shows us his tax returns...
Yes...I just don't think the GOP has the stomach for trying to unravel the ball of string that Trump and his evasiveness about anything--his business interests, his real intent about any policy, his connection to Putin (which I bet is much more long-term and involved that either has or will ever admit)...
And I don't think the Dems do either....they are going to start worrying about 2018 pretty soon....
After this pathological lying, amoral, nutcase- Kim Jong Trump, ANYONE 'but' Republicans will have 2018 in the bag!
After this pathological lying, amoral, nutcase- Kim Jong Trump, ANYONE 'but' Republicans will have 2018 in the bag!
I am not so certain of that---
Polls show that many, if not most, Republicans are OK with Trump so far---
My take on that is that so far Trump has not actually DONE anything that impacts Republican voters--
His EOs have been signed but their effects will take long time to filter down into actually real world most people function in...
His travel ban really was a problem for very few VOTERS--
There has been NO legislation passed--not EOs--
And who knows what is going on with the actual policies because you can't tell if we are for tariffs or against them and related to which countries and for what amounts....totally screwed up as to what is truth and what is just tweet language...
Until the **** hits the fan and people start to suffer under these policies there won't be any blowback---
His base believes anything he says/tweets or that comes through the alt-right grapevine...
Some people have seen good stock market gains and are giving Trump the credit for that based on the ANTICIPATION of how his policies will improve the economy---that is betting on things that might not come to pass or might not be implemented in as positive a fashion...so to me that is rewarding Trump for false advertising at this point--but they don't care cause they got the bump...
I am just hoping he screws up enough before 2018 that there will be blowback in the elections
And I really hope Price's seat and Zienky's seats wind up in Democratic side...
Sessions won't for sure---and Mulveney's won't...
But just because liberals are so angry at his encroachments into Constitutional boundaries--like how the Justice Dept is backing off voter discrimination, the travel ban and EPA violations, and other areas that Obama's Justice Dept was fighting to improve--doesn't mean that GOP voters give a damn...cause they don't...
But you would think that the issues of the cost of his traveling to FL every weekend, the paying for his sons' business travel for Trump Inc---the actually COST of his presidency would start to niggle on the GOP conscience...but I guess not...
I am not so certain of that---
Polls show that many, if not most, Republicans are OK with Trump so far---
My take on that is that so far Trump has not actually DONE anything that impacts Republican voters--
His EOs have been signed but their effects will take long time to filter down into actually real world most people function in...
His travel ban really was a problem for very few VOTERS--
There has been NO legislation passed--not EOs--
And who knows what is going on with the actual policies because you can't tell if we are for tariffs or against them and related to which countries and for what amounts....totally screwed up as to what is truth and what is just tweet language...
Until the **** hits the fan and people start to suffer under these policies there won't be any blowback---
His base believes anything he says/tweets or that comes through the alt-right grapevine...
Some people have seen good stock market gains and are giving Trump the credit for that based on the ANTICIPATION of how his policies will improve the economy---that is betting on things that might not come to pass or might not be implemented in as positive a fashion...so to me that is rewarding Trump for false advertising at this point--but they don't care cause they got the bump...
I am just hoping he screws up enough before 2018 that there will be blowback in the elections
And I really hope Price's seat and Zienky's seats wind up in Democratic side...
Sessions won't for sure---and Mulveney's won't...
But just because liberals are so angry at his encroachments into Constitutional boundaries--like how the Justice Dept is backing off voter discrimination, the travel ban and EPA violations, and other areas that Obama's Justice Dept was fighting to improve--doesn't mean that GOP voters give a damn...cause they don't...
But you would think that the issues of the cost of his traveling to FL every weekend, the paying for his sons' business travel for Trump Inc---the actually COST of his presidency would start to niggle on the GOP conscience...but I guess not...
Trump's approval rating has stayed right around 40%, regardless of what he does or doesn't do.
As you point out, none of the travel ban, reversing banking and EPA violations, allowing oil companies to keep bribes a secret, reversing requirement that financial advisors act in clients' best interests... none of this has had a direct impact an a lot of lives. This will come over time.
The ACA will have a more immediate impact on a lot of lives, Republicans ones included, but this can easily be palmed off on the Republicans.
The March 15th deadline to raise the federal debt limit will kick off the conversation about taxes and spending may raise more eyebrows.
Trump's approval rating has stayed right around 40%, regardless of what he does or doesn't do.
As you point out, none of the travel ban, reversing banking and EPA violations, allowing oil companies to keep bribes a secret, reversing requirement that financial advisors act in clients' best interests... none of this has had a direct impact an a lot of lives. This will come over time.
The ACA will have a more immediate impact on a lot of lives, Republicans ones included, but this can easily be palmed off on the Republicans.
The March 15th deadline to raise the federal debt limit will kick off the conversation about taxes and spending may raise more eyebrows.
There will be no conversation about raising the debt limit. It will be quietly raised without debate. There is a Republican in the White House and the Republicans hold both Houses of Congress. Debt doesn't matter any more. It will cease to be a concern until a Democrat is in the White House again. THEN the government will need to be shut down until the Democrats offset every dollar in spending with a cut in the social safety net. But the Republicans never require that kind of offsetting when they are the ones creating the debt.
There will be no conversation about raising the debt limit. It will be quietly raised without debate. There is a Republican in the White House and the Republicans hold both Houses of Congress. Debt doesn't matter any more. It will cease to be a concern until a Democrat is in the White House again. THEN the government will need to be shut down until the Democrats offset every dollar in spending with a cut in the social safety net. But the Republicans never require that kind of offsetting when they are the ones creating the debt.
Where is Ted Cruz these days?
Yes--but I think the Dems will make a stink--not that it matters because they don't want to shut down Govt.
Cruz and his wife whom Trump maligned during the Republican primaries along with Cruz's father had dinner with Trump and Melania in FL this past weekend---how is that for family loyalty....
He wanted Cruz on board for the GOP health care vote...
Cruz will need a lot of money to run for re-election in 2018--
He wants Robert Mercer, the hedge fund billionaire that moved to Trump when Cruz flamed out in primaries...the guy who owns Cambridge Analytics...
Cruz wants his money for his campaign...
Can't p/o Trump and get his backer's money I imagine...
Of course the Koch Bros are having hissy fit because they didn't get complete repeal vs this step-child of ObamaLite...(which it isn't--it keeps only 3 factors from ACA that make any sense--but w/o the rest those three are meaningless)...
Does anyone else think the timing of the WikiLeaks CIA info was providential for Trump since he is still very much at odds with the CIA and wants to smear its capability with as much dirt and questionability as he can to make any evidence about his ties to Russia...
Saw where Flynn registered with the DoJ as lobbyist for Turkey...and likely was working for them during campaign...
I thought Trump prohibited that in an EO
And heard that he took money from the Russian company that did work for Putin--
Should have made him off limits as Intelligence head...
Does anyone else think the timing of the WikiLeaks CIA info was providential for Trump since he is still very much at odds with the CIA and wants to smear its capability with as much dirt and questionability as he can to make any evidence about his ties to Russia...
Saw where Flynn registered with the DoJ as lobbyist for Turkey...and likely was working for them during campaign...
I thought Trump prohibited that in an EO
And heard that he took money from the Russian company that did work for Putin--
Should have made him off limits as Intelligence head...
Definitely not coincidental. Stone was all over twitter this weekend and he acknowledged again his back door to wikileaks. Also Nigel Farage, another trump associate, was at the Ecuador embassy this week. He swears he can't remember why.
Definitely not coincidental. Stone was all over twitter this weekend and he acknowledged again his back door to wikileaks. Also Nigel Farage, another trump associate, was at the Ecuador embassy this week. He swears he can't remember why.
Too bad Obama didn't press Ecuador to kick out Assange
Saw this just now--
The last section is most illuminating--
And you do have to feel sorry for the people in the OGE trying to hold back the tide...
Y'also have to feel sorry for the American people who're paying a high premium for a 'bare minimum' President. From your link:
Quote:
...By 3:56 p.m. that day, the top lawyer at the Office of Government Ethics, David Apol, asked Trump's White House ethics lawyer for a phone call to discuss "an issue that has come up."
Records show Trump's lawyer, Stefan Passantino, called the ethics office five minutes later. A summary of their discussion is now public for the first time.
In his email to the White House, Apol, the ethics office lawyer, said the phone call was to discuss "the President's tweet concerning the decision of Nordstrom to stop carrying his daughter's line of products." The ethics office recommended the president follow basic standards of conduct that forbid misusing his position for personal gain, Apol explained, an ethical standard that is common but not legally required for a President.
...They face the daunting task of routinely cleaning up after the ethical disasters left by the President and his senior staff," Moss said, "none of whom have shown to date a serious awareness of the standards of conduct expected of them."
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