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View Poll Results: Would you accept your child if they came out as LGBT?
Yes, I would accept them 213 72.70%
I might have difficulty accepting them, but I will try 24 8.19%
I would accept it if they were gay or bisexual, but not if they were trans* 11 3.75%
I could not accept it 45 15.36%
Voters: 293. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-30-2016, 03:04 PM
 
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Which is my belief. The Torah was written from the direct words from God.
God didn't write it. Men did. Big difference.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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So does cannibalism. So does hyper-masturbation. So does rape. So does incest and pedophilia. Cats will eat their kittens if they are weak or sickly. Dogs hump inanimate objects. What is your point, that humans that engage in these activities should be embraced because they are engaging in activities proven to be "natural" by the animal kingdom?
There is no winning with these folks. The fact that you do not worship at the feet of their ideology infuriates them.

There is an old saying... "Do not argue with a fool, lest you be mistaken for one".


Move on, not worth the effort, there is no resolution to be had, no understanding to be achieved.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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There is no winning with these folks. The fact that you do not worship at the feet of their ideology infuriates them.

There is an old saying... "Do not argue with a fool, lest you be mistaken for one".


Move on, not worth the effort, there is no resolution to be had, no understanding to be achieved.
If by understanding you mean being completely blind to facts, then yes, that won't happen.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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You don't just "become a lesbian."

Well, maybe some do. I have relative who had one horrible heterosexual relationship after another. I'm not kidding. Each man was worse than the last deadbeat loser. In her forties, she decided "to become a lesbian." It lasted a few years and didn't amount to much. Then she took up with a man who ended up in prison and decided celibacy was the way to go.

Some people play on both teams, so I guess they could just become a lesbian at will.

But most social workers and teachers I've worked with have been lesbians there whole life.

I do have a distant relative whose wife left him for a woman down the block. But I don't think she became a lesbian. I suspect she was one all along.
That's an awesome story. She must have had some hellacious relationships to make her try that tactic!

Many if not most gay men and lesbian women know their orientation from a very early age. As far as not accepting them, that would just be silly. Just don't be an a-hole, don't be a liar and manipulator, and treat people around you decently and fairly. Those are the ground rules. Sexual orientation is almost irrelevant.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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God didn't write it. Men did. Big difference.
Men wrote the new testament, not the Torah. At least as far as I am concerned.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:41 PM
 
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For those that say they would disown a child that is LGBT for whatever reason ....

Would you feel the same if they found a partner of a different race?
Different Religion than the family or no religion?
They didn't want or couldn't have children?

I think many that show such a hatred for Homosexuals have insecurities in their own sexuality.

Being Homosexual does NOT prevent a person from reproducing, I would estimate millions of heterosexual couples use the same method.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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Certainly not by redefining what normal is.
Scientifically speaking, "Normal" depends on your sample.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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Men wrote the new testament, not the Torah. At least as far as I am concerned.
You are asserting God put pen to paper and wrote the Torah?
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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Men wrote the new testament, not the Torah. At least as far as I am concerned.
Men wrote ALL the Bible, the God inspired parts have been edited and/or removed by those in power throughout the years.
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