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Its simple OP. Israel doesn't think they should be forced to obey international law and are throwing a fit liken to a 2 year old over it. Bout sums it up.
Like the surrounding countries obeyed it when they attacked Israel with an intent to annihilate them in 1967? These countries would have kept Israel's land if they had of won. Since Israel won, how is it that they do not get to keep the land that they conquered? Russia is apparently keeping the Crimea, which it took by force from Ukraine a few years ago after Obama's bungled effort to turn the Ukraine to the West.
So how is it that this works for everyone else, except Israel? What international "law" is it that you think supports this inconsistency?
They expected a veto, and when they didn't get it, they are now accusing US of orchestrating the whole resplution, and that US is lying about it. US policy has been opposed the settlements, and some presidents have been quite hard about it, like Bush who threatened to cut all aid to Israel. In the end of the day, the vote will change nothing. I don't know why Israel keeps expanding the settlements knowing the whole world considers is illegal.
Israel is not under the authority of "the whole world" any more than we are or than Russia is. The "whole world" can threaten sanctions or military action under the UN, but with the US opposing them, they cannot get an agreement to do that. In fact, most Democrats are as appalled by this cowardly and inappropriate action by Obama as the Republicans are.
This was just another petulant outburst by our narcissistic child president, Barack H. Obama. It is not supported by the rest of our government and the support for this position will be quickly reversed once Donald Trump takes office.
Basically we in Israel expected the same treatment as Russia treats its ally. They will veto everything. We were wrong in our expectation and will not put again all our eggs in one basket.
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Like the surrounding countries obeyed it when they attacked Israel with an intent to annihilate them in 1967? These countries would have kept Israel's land if they had of won. Since Israel won, how is it that they do not get to keep the land that they conquered? Russia is apparently keeping the Crimea, which it took by force from Ukraine a few years ago after Obama's bungled effort to turn the Ukraine to the West.
So how is it that this works for everyone else, except Israel? What international "law" is it that you think supports this inconsistency?
It doesn't work at all. I believe a more relevant question would be WHY do the US, Israel and other countries continue to waste time/$$$ supporting what is little more than an exclusive country club for diplomats living the NYC high-life on other peoples' $$$ ?
Like the surrounding countries obeyed it when they attacked Israel with an intent to annihilate them in 1967? These countries would have kept Israel's land if they had of won. Since Israel won, how is it that they do not get to keep the land that they conquered? Russia is apparently keeping the Crimea, which it took by force from Ukraine a few years ago after Obama's bungled effort to turn the Ukraine to the West.
So how is it that this works for everyone else, except Israel? What international "law" is it that you think supports this inconsistency?
Familiarize yourself with the Geneva Conventions, which Israel ratified and agreed to abide by.
Like the surrounding countries obeyed it when they attacked Israel with an intent to annihilate them in 1967? These countries would have kept Israel's land if they had of won. Since Israel won, how is it that they do not get to keep the land that they conquered? Russia is apparently keeping the Crimea, which it took by force from Ukraine a few years ago after Obama's bungled effort to turn the Ukraine to the West.
So how is it that this works for everyone else, except Israel? What international "law" is it that you think supports this inconsistency?
War happens. This isn't 1967. Either become a rogue state OR follow international law. Its simple.
Israel is not under the authority of "the whole world" any more than we are or than Russia is. The "whole world" can threaten sanctions or military action under the UN, but with the US opposing them, they cannot get an agreement to do that.
Well, international law does exist, and they are in violation of it. Longstanding US policy has been to oppose the settlements, while supporting Israel, and that has not changed. Only very recently US pledged the largest aid package to Israel in history, $38 billion. No one has said anything about military action, or even sanctions, so I am not sure where you got that from. Like I said, the resolution will change nothing.
Its simple OP. Israel doesn't think they should be forced to obey international law and are throwing a fit liken to a 2 year old over it. Bout sums it up.
Horse crappola!
International law has been more than adequately shown to be made up as they go along with it's adherence only being imperative to the politics of the day.
Netanyahu has gone ahead and settled the area because while the talking heads all froth over a "two state solution" Palestinians and other Arabs want, and explicitly state, they want only the total eradication of Israel.
Ask yourselves why you're droning the hell out of civilians, actively fighting ISIS and a few other terrorist org's while ignoring the Hezbollah and previous Fatah rockets and suicide bombers targeting Israeli civilians for over 50 years now by these "so-called" Palestinians.
Where was all this faux outrage over "international law" when it's been Arab's attacking Jews?
Obama's a suckwit who, while leaning into Putin's earhole and suggesting "wait 'til my second term when I'll have more lee-way", got as close to a complete sell-out of American traditional ideals as it's ever gotten.
The veto has been used many times to ill effect by both the U.S. and Russia without any moral or ethical concern for decades. For this occasion to be the first example of the U.S. showing "legal concern" stinks to high heaven.
No one else is fooled by yet another example of U.S. duplicity.
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