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Old 12-25-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Israel was furious at the passage of Security Council resolution 2334, which says its settlements in the West Bank "had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the vision of two States living side-by-side in peace
Israel, wants everyone to automatically sanction and and all of their encroachment activity. Thank goodness the Security Council Took a Stand.
Israel did not want it to go to the Security Counsel, becasue they knew the Security Council would not give them a pass and let them aggressively intrude and try and overtake land that is not theirs.

It's time the world stops pandering to Israel as if the world owes them something. They were given land after World War II, and they have continually done everything to disrespect the Palestinian People. Israel does not own the West Bank.

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The West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has a land area of 5,640 km2 plus a water area of 220 km2, consisting of the northwest quarter of the Dead Sea.[3] As of July 2015 it has an estimated population of 2,785,366 Palestinians, and approximately 371,000 Israeli settlers, and approximately another 212,000 Jewish Israelis in East Jerusalem.[3] The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, illegal under international law
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The 1949 Armistice Agreements

Any time Israel does not get what it wants, it tries to use the worn out and tired phase "Anti Semite", as if that is suppose to make everyone submit to what Israel wants.

The world is expected to submit to Israel and when it does not, Israel wants to throw up the Holocaust, but let any part of Africa bring up the 10's of millions of black people taken into global slavery and the countless millions who died in transit or the multiple Centuries of Devastation's of life and the historical legacy of countless people, not to mention the Centuries of Servititude and the time since, where discrimination has raged in many nations upon and against black people.
I personally do not see nor claim the Jewish people as being any preferential Chosen People. All people are of Gods Creation. "PERIOD" !!!!!

Any time anyone does not go along with anything about Jewish people, they call it defamation, but they have no problem defaming others, be it Palestinians, blacks and various others. Their forms are defamation is both overt , covert and discriminatory and covertly discriminating. How long will the world allow this to go on, but no other people can talk about the historical tragedies that has been done to them, or the abuses that have been done to them, and none of those groups whom have suffered such historical tragedies and defamation's, abuses, and even the acts of enslavement's and segregation, do the Jewish stand up and join hands with to support the cries of the people for justice and equality.

The US has pumped money to Israel for Decades, but won't have the same devotion to help or support minorities here in America. WHY? That is a questions that should have remained on the table for decades, and yet, not only is the question not on the table, there is no push of support by Jewish people to get it on the table with support and promotion to address it.

No one is in support of Arabs or Islamic people pushing Israel out of their land, but also, we need not be in support of Israel, continually encroaching and trying to claim land that was not awarded to them in the agreement.

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That's exactly right, and the premise then, you have to realize at that time there were only 1,500 total Israeli settlers in the entire occupied territories. This was before the massive Israeli confiscation of land and colonization of the choice sites. But the premise then, undisputed, was that Israel would soon withdraw from the occupied territories. So that impression I had was quite accurate at the time.

Can you think of one event or series of events that has caused your view to change so dramatically over those years?

Yes, the apparently permanent acquisition, confiscation and colonization of choice sites throughout the West Bank. These, the Israelis have taken away from the Palestinians. Apparently with ideas by some Israelis, to keep those areas permanently. That's the root of the problem that prevents peace coming to the Mideast
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The world can't go on supporting the aggression and belligerent disposition of Israel when it tries of occupy and claim territory that does not belong to them. The U.S. and none of the other Western Nations should be in support of Israel claming land that was not originally assigned to them.

How many lives have been lost because of actions of such by Israel and how much has the situation been inflamed and contributed to the increased activity of Terrorism in the region, simply because Israel won't stay within its borders?

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The US and most other nations consider Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem as an obstacle to a two-state solution between Israelis and Palestinians.
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Old 12-25-2016, 01:04 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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You couldn't have posted this in one of the numerous threads that already exist?
 
Old 12-25-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The world can't go on supporting the aggression and belligerent disposition of Israel when it tries of occupy and claim territory that does not belong to them.
How much land was originally assigned to the United Kingdom or the United States?
 
Old 12-25-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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The world can't go on supporting the aggression and belligerent disposition of Israel when it tries of occupy and claim territory that does not belong to them. ...
Yet it's okay for the Hashemites from Saudi Arabia to occupy land that was part of the Palestine Mandate that is not theirs either? The land known as Jordan, was not owned by Britain yet they sliced it off and gave it away. How about we get rid of the Hashemite Kingdom and give that land to the Palestinians?
 
Old 12-25-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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Israel should give the UN the middle finger.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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There will never be "two states living side by side in peace" in Israel. Never.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel should give the UN the middle finger.
That's just a simple gesture. If the UN is so pro-Palestinian, then every single UN office in Israel should be closed and its tenants evicted. I'm sure they can get better rent rates in Gaza or Ramallah.
 
Old 12-25-2016, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I believe Israel may just well leave the UN and the US may not be far behind. A totally worthless organization. Actually worthless is overrating the value of the UN.
 
Old 12-26-2016, 04:20 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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There will never be "two states living side by side in peace" in Israel. Never.

Exactly why the US should withdraw from the area and stop the fool's errand of attempting to bring peace to the area. Let the parties involved either learn to live together or they can die together, not our problem.
 
Old 12-26-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Exactly why the US should withdraw from the area and stop the fool's errand of attempting to bring peace to the area. Let the parties involved either learn to live together or they can die together, not our problem.
The US and the EU need to realize that they make things worse and not better by their intervention in the ME. They can do business in the ME, but they need to stop meddling in everything else.
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