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I also want to say I don't really care if Russia wants to reclaim some of the old Soviet bloc. I say let them have that part of the world. Maybe they will do a better job managing things over there than the U.S. has the past several decades.
I also want to say I don't really care if Russia wants to reclaim some of the old Soviet bloc. I say let them have that part of the world. Maybe they will do a better job managing things over there than the U.S. has the past several decades.
Outside of Syria (which wasn't really part of the eastern block) I'm hardpressed to think of another example. I know the folks on the Baltic sure wouldn't like that. Central Asia I don't know about. Seems like they're more like the old USSR than Russia is these days so you might have a point. I don't think the Caucusas want any more of a relationship than they have now. Check Republic bought into western Europe wholeheartedly, they would never turn to Russia.
For sure..It's not people but the Autocrat/Oligarchy who controls everything the people consume..including information and food among other such things. Meanwhile Putin and his buddies gain water..and the people have to tighten belts ! ALL blamed on the EVIL Western Countries... Anyone within the Country who even peeps opposition mysteriously goes away!! Does USA want such a powerful figure heading their decision making??
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Originally Posted by TKO
Outside of Syria (which wasn't really part of the eastern block) I'm hardpressed to think of another example. I know the folks on the Baltic sure wouldn't like that. Central Asia I don't know about. Seems like they're more like the old USSR than Russia is these days so you might have a point.
Outside of Syria, you obviously have no clue just how Putin operates..he shoots civilian planes out of the sky..deny deny.. Takes over Crimea..and says the people wanted to re-unit..then of course..invade Ukraine when Leader got ousted..invaded northern Ukraine with arms/troops and armaments ..THEN deny deny..But there's photo evidence. Putin will eventually be called before the Hague for "War Crimes"..but no doubt he would suicide ( just like Hitler) so go out without Earthly accountability!
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Originally Posted by bawac34618
I also want to say I don't really care if Russia wants to reclaim some of the old Soviet bloc. I say let them have that part of the world. Maybe they will do a better job managing things over there than the U.S. has the past several decades.
The fact you don't give a care about Putin's need to reclaim..conducting atrocities in the name of such..makes me wonder about your belief in "Democracy".. Good luck tho..because many rebel when Government intrudes on their person rights..yet you condone Putin to obliterate not just the rights of his people..but the sovereign rights of Countries he wishes to recapture!
Just an aside..You obviously have no knowledge about the "Soviet Union" history either... Please try to research just why you come to your conclusions..May be helpful.. Living in a free Country allows one to learn ..so your conclusion baffles me??/
For sure..It's not people but the Autocrat/Oligarchy who controls everything the people consume..including information and food among other such things. Meanwhile Putin and his buddies gain water..and the people have to tighten belts ! ALL blamed on the EVIL Western Countries... Anyone within the Country who even peeps opposition mysteriously goes away!! Does USA want such a powerful figure heading their decision making??
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Originally Posted by TKO
Outside of Syria (which wasn't really part of the eastern block) I'm hardpressed to think of another example. I know the folks on the Baltic sure wouldn't like that. Central Asia I don't know about. Seems like they're more like the old USSR than Russia is these days so you might have a point.
Outside of Syria, you obviously have no clue just how Putin operates..he shoots civilian planes out of the sky..deny deny.. Takes over Crimea..and says the people wanted to re-unit..then of course..invade Ukraine when Leader got ousted..invaded northern Ukraine with arms/troops and armaments ..THEN deny deny..But there's photo evidence. Putin will eventually be called before the Hague for "War Crimes"..but no doubt he would suicide ( just like Hitler) so go out without Earthly accountability!
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Originally Posted by bawac34618
I also want to say I don't really care if Russia wants to reclaim some of the old Soviet bloc. I say let them have that part of the world. Maybe they will do a better job managing things over there than the U.S. has the past several decades.
The fact you don't give a care about Putin's need to reclaim..conducting atrocities in the name of such..makes me wonder about your belief in "Democracy".. Good luck tho..because many rebel when Government intrudes on their person rights..yet you condone Putin to obliterate not just the rights of his people..but the sovereign rights of Countries he wishes to recapture!
Just an aside..You obviously have no knowledge about the "Soviet Union" history either... Please try to research just why you come to your conclusions..May be helpful.. Living in a free Country allows one to learn ..so your conclusion baffles me?? Then there's you somehow accept Putin's backing ASSAD who has been killing his own people..and Putin too kills anyone against Assad..and IGNORED ISIS? US will always regret that! oh yeah..Putin/Assad thugs kill Humanity Medical teams too..Clap clap ..Enjoy your accolades for such TYRANTS !!
The fact you don't give a care about Putin's need to reclaim..conducting atrocities in the name of such..makes me wonder about your belief in "Democracy".. Good luck tho..because many rebel when Government intrudes on their person rights..yet you condone Putin to obliterate not just the rights of his people..but the sovereign rights of Countries he wishes to recapture!
I don't condone it, I just don't care if it happens. I mean, what does the United States lose if Russia takes over those countries.
Sorry for sounding hard and callous, but I don't think it's the job of this country to be the world's police. Unless it's something that threatens the interest of the United States, I don't care if Putin wants to take over some banana republic in eastern Europe or north Asia.
Outside of Syria, you obviously have no clue just how Putin operates..he shoots civilian planes out of the sky..deny deny..
I wasn't suggesting that Russia's actions in Syria made me happy. They don't. Just that ours (or our lack of them) weren't having any positive results either. Countering the argument that Russia should have more influence on the countries closer to them.
No, I am talking about trump wanting to control the press, like most dictators do. What fake news? Does not matter, because two wrongs do not equate to a right, nice excuse, too bad it does not actually excuse bad behavior.
If you truly thought this was so horrible, you would be outraged with Hillary, Obama, and Bill for proposing similar things. You single out Trump, because you truly don't have principles on this particular issue. It is merely a chance to take a whack at Trump.
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Nope you are still Wrong. Trust the Russians and Putin all you want, just do not try making it National Policy. Not to worry the actual Republicans controlling Congress will not allow trump to put the Nation at risk.
I don't trust the Russians like Hillary 2009 and Obama 2012 offering Putin more flexibility to run amok after the election against Romney. I just don't want to war monger against the Russians like Hillary 2016.
Romney was spot on and the liberal media, liberal posters on here, and Obama were wrong to blast Romney.
Hence this is a wedge issue for Democrats - generally speaking it doesn't matter what position they take on Russia. Democrats are fine with blasting Romney for accurately depicting Putin, Democrats are fine with supporting Obama for offering Putin more flexibility, Democrats are fine with a Hillary Russian rest in 2009, but Democrats are also fine with blasting Trump for being willing to work with Russia.
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He mentioned "negative stories", so clearly that alone is enough to go after the media. He will not allow people to speak negatively about him. No criticism allowed. It is very USSR.
Stop the fake news. The quote in context makes it clear that the negative stories are stories that contain false information, information that can't be proved (ie Melania was a prostitute), etc... This is nothing different from Bill, Obama, and Hillary making proposals to snuff out too much slant in talk radio and etc...
Do you honestly think that a national law could supersede the 1st Amendment by saying "no criticism allowed?" Just curious, what fake news outlet did you get this biased BS from that has you so paranoid?
I wasn't suggesting that Russia's actions in Syria made me happy..
Why? What Russia did wrong in Syria?
If you tell me that Russia was bombing syrian cities and was killing lots of syrian civilians that is the brazen lie of the WH propaganda and fake news. All those crimes were committed by syrian terrorists that get support from the WH in every possible way.
Why? What Russia did wrong in Syria?
If you tell me that Russia was bombing syrian cities and was killing lots of syrian civilians that is the brazen lie of the WH propaganda and fake news. All those crimes were committed by syrian terrorists that get support from the WH in every possible way.
Taking sides and getting involved in the action in what can't be denied is a very aggressive manner. If a foreign power is going to have major impact on the future of Syria I'd just a soon it was the US vs Russia. I'm an American. I understand, or guess from your diction, why you'd think otherwise.
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