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Old 12-27-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Withdrawing does support Russia/Assad. That may be a vast simplification but yeah, that is what we should do.

All it supports to me is the idea that other nations' civil wars are NOT our business.

An idea I support.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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You guys complain that Obama is too weak, and you complain when he is assertive. Make up your minds.
I do no such thing.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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Is Obama merely another inept politician for army rebels and escalating the arming?

I feel as if Jimmy Carter starting to arm rebels in Afghanistan in 1979 was a huge mistake and Reagan then continued Carter's program was a mistake. We helped Bin Laden.

I hope we eventually learn from our mistakes and that Trump is wiser than Obama.
The arms just end up in ISIS and Al Queda hands. Without Obama sending our military equipment to rebels in Syria there wouldnt be the huge Syrian refugee problem now.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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All it supports to me is the idea that other nations' civil wars are NOT our business.

An idea I support.
I said my statement was simplistic. Assad wins as soon as we mind our own business.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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I said my statement was simplistic. Assad wins as soon as we mind our own business.

More importantly, America wins as soon as we mind our own business!

The fact is there are many bad men in the world, believing we can change that is a fool's errand.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Hostile? Russia you say? Is that the country that has an ex-KGB murderer who silences his opponents and has declared himself dictator for life? That Russia? LOL
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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Withdrawing does support Russia/Assad. That may be a vast simplification but yeah, that is what we should do.
Any help to the rebels hurts Russia - as Russia wants to keep their warm water navy base in Syria that they could lose if the rebels win.

We should just stay out of that hornet's nest unless there is a direct threat to the US...I would dare say the US pumping weapons into the regions is creating a direct threat to the US where one didn't truly exist beforehand.

Any action we take there can be a misstep, there is less harm in just staying out.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Hostile? Russia you say? Is that the country that has an ex-KGB murderer who silences his opponents and has declared himself dictator for life? That Russia? LOL
I think we have to admit that if anyone knows about the actions of a scumbag, it's Putin!
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If and when Trump withdraws all US support for either side I'll applaud, if he supports Russia/Assad he'll prove himself merely another inept politician in a line of them far too long.
Trump has failed to outline any strategy in Syria, but I think there is a good chance he will betray our allies there, ans side with Russia.
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Old 12-27-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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You guys complain that Obama is too weak, and you complain when he is assertive. Make up your minds.
Nope, Obama should stick with what he knows best, Community activism. Who would have thought some Jr. Senator from a corrupt district in Illinois would be topling world leaders of other countries
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