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Old 12-28-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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Conservos believe such silly things.
Can't speak for Conservatives. I am a Democrat who voted for Obama.

Doesn't stop me from calling him out for shameful things.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What Obama did was shameful to every Veteran and active duty person in the USA's military.

Obama is in absolutely no position to apologize for WWII.

No wonder 90% of them now vote against the Democrat.
Please point out WHERE Obama called dropping nukes a mistake as alleged?

Or is that just a shameful twisting of what the linked article actually says?

BTW, WHERE/WHEN did Obama apologize for WW !!?
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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Did Obama apologize for WWII again?

I'm convinced that Obama hates Western Civilization.
He doesn't mind taking the money, does he?
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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So is his argument that using trade sanctions against Japan, whom were invading and destroying south east Asia, a mistake?

The majority of the greatest atrocities of ww2 were committed by Japan.
I'm not arguing the justness of pre-WW II actions, only asking exactly WHERE/WHEN Obama said what is alleged in the thread title.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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He doesn't mind taking the money, does he?
LOL. There is that.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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So is his argument that using trade sanctions against Japan, whom were invading and destroying south east Asia, a mistake?

The majority of the greatest atrocities of ww2 were committed by Japan.
Nope. If you note, his quote doesn't even say they were American mistakes. *cough*.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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The article quotes exactly what Obama said, condemning the bombs as a "mistake". I suspect he's have preferred that we sacrificed the lives of one million Americans defeating Japan in an invasion, rather than to have used nukes, based on HIS statements.
Specifically cite the quote that says this.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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Seriously, why doesn't this guy just go away forever. He has no right to speak on events that are way over his head. The lowest man in the marines, the guy on discipline duty cleaning out the crappers has more honor than Obama. How dare he.

https://news.grabien.com/story-unlik...panese-ww2-pol

Since you're talking 'honor', how about pointing out exactly where Obama called "dropping nukes on Japan a 'mistake' " as alleged?
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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This thread really needs a PSA....so here goes.

10 Early Symptoms of Dementia: Be Aware of Subtle Signs
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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You keep using that term. I do not think you know what it means.
OK, let's call it what it is - lies. Like that better?

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The article quotes exactly what Obama said, condemning the bombs as a "mistake".
Ehm - it doesn't. It quotes Obama saying that something was a mistake:

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"For this, too, is what makes our species unique," he said. "We’re not bound by genetic code to repeat the mistakes of the past. We can learn. We can choose"
That's the quote.

If you were to read the Hiroshima address in its entirety, it's clear that President Obama is addressing war itself as a mistake humanity needs to stop repeating - this entire paragraph precedes the "mistake" statement:

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For we see around the world today how even the crudest rifles and barrel bombs can serve up violence on a terrible scale. We must change our mind-set about war itself. To prevent conflict through diplomacy and strive to end conflicts after they’ve begun. To see our growing interdependence as a cause for peaceful cooperation and not violent competition. To define our nations not by our capacity to destroy but by what we build. And perhaps, above all, we must reimagine our connection to one another as members of one human race.

For this, too, is what makes our species unique. We’re not bound by genetic code to repeat the mistakes of the past. We can learn. We can choose. We can tell our children a different story, one that describes a common humanity, one that makes war less likely and cruelty less easily accepted.
That right there provides context for what mistake is to be avoided: That of starting war if it can be avoided. (Churchill said it more succinctly: "To jaw-jaw always is better than to war-war", but I suspect that's not really the tone Obama was going for.) WWII was a mistake on an obscene level, a complete miscalculation on part of the Axis Powers, and one that both sides paid for.

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I suspect he's have preferred that we sacrificed the lives of one million Americans defeating Japan in an invasion, rather than to have used nukes, based on HIS statements.
Really? There are some right-wing posters on this board I have marked down as too dumb to follow a line of thought that extends across several paragraphs. You're not one of them. Have I been wrong?
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