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Do you think BO will honor tradition and not criticize the future president?
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To be brutally honest... Trump is representative of a WIDE swath of America. Have you read the claptrap people say on Twitter these days? Trump fits right in. It is who we are as a nation right now.
Many of us don't want Trump posting what he posts - but we (collectively speaking) will keep right on tweeting whenever we get offended.
Have you seen the "claptrap" Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton Tweet?
... The fact is that he won the popular vote in 2/3 of the states. That's what matters
THE NATIONWIDE POPULAR VOTE IS IRRELEVANT. THAT'S NOT HOW WE CHOOSE A PRESIDENT.
I agree, the popular vote doesn't matter because that's not how the president is chosen. Why are you shouting this in the 2nd sentence but then trying to give Trump the popular vote win in the 1st sentence by making some new rule where you decide which states to remove from the popular vote, in order to get your guy the popular vote win?
Yep - it doesn't count. Regardless, he lost the popular vote. Again, it doesn't count and doesn't matter really. But don't try to change the popular vote tally by picking and choosing states to throw out. That shows that you really don't think that the popular vote is irrelevant. It bothers you that Trump lost the popular vote and you are trying to redefine what popular vote means in order to falsely claim the popular vote win.
Your ego seems as big as Trump's....where you cannot even accept that the popular vote didn't go your way, even though you won the big prize. Which is really all that matters anyway.
Who's "twisting" it? The fact is that he won the popular vote in 2/3 of the states. That's what matters, and the fact that only CA and NY provided the popular vote count for Hillary only proves why the Framers were wise in creating the E.C.
THE NATIONWIDE POPULAR VOTE IS IRRELEVANT. THAT'S NOT HOW WE CHOOSE A PRESIDENT. Get over it.
It is important to have the country behind or with you and Trump
obviously does not!!
That is where the popular vote comes in and don't tell
me that it doesn't bother Trump , I bet it does.
He will be ruling with the minority of people behind him
and let's see how that goes.
Really? The country is ruined? Are you living hand to mouth? Don't have clean drinking water? Scrounging for food? Pooping in the woods? Electricity went out nationwide? Cities in burning ruins? Stock market crashed and people are jumping out of windows? What???
Are you sure you live in America? Nothing like that is happening where I live.
President Obama is the one who amped up the race war.......you and your buddies can deny, deny all you want. Doesn't change the facts, that yes many people are doing exactly how you described. Dems have ruined small-business, encouraged illegals to take work, while encouraging our young people to take on college debt they can't afford.
Then we have all the illegals your President gladly put upon us over our own children, vets and seniors.
In the first place, the people have indeed spoken and three million more wanted the other candidate. Go on all you want about the EC, or how if it wasn't for California, or voter fraud (a dubious claim at best), the fact remains that the people spoke and they didn't want Trump. This will haunt him and us.
This is not time to ride the stage coach east. This is a time for the president-elect to get up to speed on security issues that are developing and on-going, interviewing (not appointing, that comes later) cabinet members, advisors, and staff, selling investments that would present conflict of interest...
Lot to do and short time to do it.
In every election there are losers. That's just the way it is. Hillary's majority disappears if you take out CA and NY, which shows the wisdom of our founders in creating the E.C.
We play by the rules established by our Constitution. Those rules are not about to be changed, because the wisdom of creating those rules was sound, and proven by the facts of this election,.
This is the only fact that matters: 2/3 of the states voted for Donald J. Trump. That is how we decide our elections. Deal with it.
When one resorts to name-calling they have lost the fight. Don't you know that?
Regardless of which political side you're on, you're statement is so true.
I was posting on another political thread on this site a couple days ago and we were debating something or another about the recent presidential election. I always try to offer reasoned, non flame throwing civil exchanges....but this one fellow, was over the top. By his posts you could tell he thought himself very knowledgeable, and perhaps he is/was, but none the less he was showing at least one of his major short comings, mainly his lack of ability to hold a reasoned and civil exchange with anyone who even politely challenged his point of view.
In various posts, all in the same thread, he managed to call Donald Trump all of the following names.
Idiot, a moron, a liar, a thief, a name caller, a bully, intellectually incurious, a monstrosity, a little man, lunatic moron, ignorant madman, carnival barker, lying madman, a disaster, shallow-minded, nonthinking lunatic, serial liar, crook, thief, mentally unhinged adolescent.
There were probably even a few more names he called Trump that I perhaps missed. I stopped posting in the afore mentioned thread because judging form this fellows posts, he likely resembles at least a few of the things he called Trump, and it's impossible to have an intelligent exchange with a name calling hothead....especially one with such a broad vocabulary of denigrating terms for someone else. When you feel you've lost the debate, and have nothing else to say to defend your side, that's typically when the intense name calling starts.
I had, and have, no difficulty seeing Trumps short comings. We all know he was far from the perfect candidate, he will likely have some difficulty in office as well, but he is President, and we should all wish him well since he will very likely have some, or perhaps a lot of impact on our very own well being as a country and individuals. We all can and should vigorously voice our own contrary views when necessary, but calling him names accomplishes nothing, absolutely nothing.
Last edited by jasper1372; 12-28-2016 at 05:49 PM..
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