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Old 03-02-2017, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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During the Obama administration we had the "birther movement". One where Obama was suspected of being born outside the US. Even after he produced "evidence" (a PDF of a birth certificate) the movement went on. Most rational people looked at this and saw the people pushing this as, well, pretty silly.

Now we have the screeching of "Russian Hacks" Also with no firm evidence. And yes, the loons pushing this seem every bit as delusional as the "Birther Movement".

As a nation, we've lost our minds.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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Except for the piling up of circumstantial evidence, and the apparent fact that the CIA and FBI (bunch of liberals of course) know something that have caused them to basically abandon ship with the Trump administration. The whole thing stinks.

I'm not saying we should impeach Trump, I'm saying we should investigate the matter, something which he is completely opposed to, and that Republicans in Congress refuse to do (it's KNOWN that Russia hacked the RNC and is probably blackmailing many Republicans in Congress).
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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The birther movement was more ridiculous because Obama was a natural-born citizen regardless of whether he was born in the USA (through his mother) and thus it was never going to invalidate a president. The current controversy could invalidate Trump and a whole mess of other Republicans.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: My House
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No. It's not.

The Birther movement didn't have any Intelligence Agencies supporting it.

Just a reality show hack turned terrible president.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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To be fair, the Obama birth certificate looked fake with some of the videos I saw on it.

But yeah, the Russian thing is getting old now. Suddenly Putin is enemy number 1.

Those Rothschilds must be mad that Putin kicked them out of Russia.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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The birther movement was more ridiculous because Obama was a natural-born citizen regardless of whether he was born in the USA (through his mother) and thus it was never going to invalidate a president. The current controversy could invalidate Trump and a whole mess of other Republicans.
Barack LOST his citizenship when his stepfather ADOPTED him and moved to Indonesia.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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The birther movement was more ridiculous because Obama was a natural-born citizen regardless of whether he was born in the USA (through his mother) and thus it was never going to invalidate a president. The current controversy could invalidate Trump and a whole mess of other Republicans.
Also, President Obama produced the both his long and short form birth certificate as well the newspaper announcement to settle the birther nonsense.

Trump refuses to even show his tax returns.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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As a nation, we've lost our minds.
Nope, just your side. We are reality based. You're not.

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Old 03-02-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That 'Russian hacks' occurred had the backing of 17 US Intelligence Agencies.

The birther movement had WHAT?
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Barack LOST his citizenship when his stepfather ADOPTED him and moved to Indonesia.
wrong.

A): lolo soetoro never adopted obama.

B): even if soetoro had adopted obama it wouldn't have given him indonesian citizenship. by indonesian law, only adoptions before the 5th birthday ( obama was 6 ) are eligible for citizenship.

C): it wouldn't have affected his US citizenship. no 3rd party can affect a person's US citizenship and the US doesn't allow 6 year olds to renounce their citizenship.
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