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Old 12-28-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Statement in Response to US Secretary of State John Kerry's Speech:
Before I explain why this speech was so disappointing to millions of Israelis, I want to say that Israel is deeply grateful to the United States of America, to successive American administrations, to the American Congress, to the American people.
We're grateful for the support Israel has received over many, many decades. Our alliance is based on shared values, shared interests, a sense of shared destiny and a partnership that has endured differences of opinions between our two governments over the best way to advance peace and stability in the Middle East. I have no doubt that our alliance will endure the profound disagreement we have had with the Obama Administration and will become even stronger in the future.
But now I must express my deep disappointment with the speech today of John Kerry – a speech that was almost as unbalanced as the anti-Israel resolution passed at the UN last week. In a speech ostensibly about peace between Israelis and Palestinians, Secretary Kerry paid lip service to the unremitting campaign of terrorism that has been waged by the Palestinians against the Jewish state for nearly a century.
What he did was to spend most of his speech blaming Israel for the lack of peace by passionately condemning a policy of enabling Jews to live in their historic homeland and in their eternal capital, Jerusalem.
Hundreds of suicide bombings, thousand, tens of thousands of rockets, millions of Israelis in bomb shelters are not throwaway lines in a speech; they're the realities that the people of Israel had to endure because of mistaken policies, policies that at the time won the thunderous applause of the world. I don't seek applause; I seek the security, and peace, and prosperity and the future of the Jewish state. The Jewish people have sought their place under the sun for 3,000 years, and we're not about to be swayed by mistaken policies that have caused great, great damage.
Israelis do not need to be lectured about the importance of peace by foreign leaders. Israel's hand has been extended in peace to its neighbors from day one, from its very first day. We've prayed for peace, we've worked for it every day since then. And thousands of Israeli families have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend our country and advance peace.
My family has been one of them; there are many, many others.
No one wants peace more than the people of Israel. Israel remains committed to resolving the outstanding differences between us and the Palestinians through direct negotiations. This is how we made peace with Egypt; this is how we made peace with Jordan; it's the only way we'll make peace with the Palestinians. That has always been Israel's policy; that has always been America's policy.
Here's what President Obama himself said at the UN in 2011. He said: 'Peace is hard work. Peace will not come through statements and resolutions at the United Nations. If it were that easy, it would have been accomplished by now.'
That's what President Obama said, and he was right. And until last week this was repeated over and over again as American policy. Secretary Kerry said that the United States cannot vote against its own policy. But that's exactly what it did at the UN, and that's why Israel opposed last week's Security Council resolution, because it effectively calls the Western Wall 'occupied Palestinian Territory,' because it encourages boycotts and sanctions against Israel – that's what it effectively does, and because it reflects a radical shift in US policy towards the Palestinians on final status issues – those issues that we always agreed, the US and Israel, have to be negotiated directly, face to face without preconditions.
That shift happened despite the Palestinians walking away from peace and from peace offers time and time again, despite their refusal to even negotiate peace for the past eight years, and despite the Palestinian Authority inculcating a culture of hatred towards Israel in an entire generation of young Palestinians.
Israel looks forward to working with President-elect Trump and with the American Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, to mitigate the damage that this resolution has done and ultimately, to repeal it.
Israel hopes that the outgoing Obama Administration will prevent any more damage being done to Israel at the UN in its waning days. I wish I could be comforted by the promise that the US says we will not bring any more resolutions to the UN. That's what they said about the previous resolution. We have it on absolutely incontestable evidence that the United States organized, advanced and brought this resolution to the United Nations Security Council. We'll share that information with the incoming administration. Some of it is sensitive, it's all true. You saw some of it in the protocol released in an Egyptian paper. There's plenty more; it's the tip of the iceberg.
So they say, but we didn't bring it. And they could take John Kerry's speech with the six points. It could be raised in the French international conference a few days from now and then brought to the UN. So France will bring it, or Sweden – not a noted friend of Israel – could bring it. And the United States could say, well, we can't vote against our own policy, we've just annunciated it.
I think the United States, if it's true to its word, or at least if it's now true to its word, should now come out and say we will not allow any resolutions, any more resolutions in the Security Council on Israel. Period. Not we will bring or not bring – we will not allow any, and stop this game, the charades.
I think that the decisions that are vital to Israel's interests and the future of its children, they won't be made through speeches in Washington or votes in the United Nations or conferences in Paris. They'll be made by the Government of Israel around the negotiating table, making them on behalf of the one and only Jewish state – a sovereign nation that is the master of its own fate.
And one final thought – I personally know the pain, the loss and the suffering of war. That's why I'm so committed to peace. Because for anyone who's experienced it, as I have, war and terror are horrible. I want young Palestinian children to be educated like our children, for peace. But they're not educated for peace. The Palestinian Authority educates them to lionize terrorists and to murder Israelis.
My vision is that Israelis and Palestinians both have a future of mutual recognition, of dignity, mutual respect, co-existence. But the Palestinian Authority tells them that they will never accept, should never accept the existence of a Jewish state.
So, I ask you, how can you make peace with someone who rejects your very existence?
See, this conflict is not about houses, or communities in the West Bank, Judea and Samaria, the Gaza district or anywhere else. This conflict is and has always been about Israel's very right to exist. That's why my hundreds of calls to sit with President Abbas for peace talks have gone unanswered. That's why my invitation to him to come to the Knesset was never answered. That's why the Palestinian government continues to pay anyone who murders Israelis a monthly salary.
The persistent Palestinian refusal to recognize a Jewish state remains the core of the conflict and its removal is the key to peace.
Palestinian rejection of Israel and support for terror are what the nations of the world should focus on if they truly want to advance peace, and I can only express my regret and say that it's a shame that Secretary Kerry does not see this simple truth.
Direct negotiations do not work when there is a massive imbalance in power between the two parties. The greatly weaker side will not cease hostilities and will always feel slighted.

The UN vote was unanimous and a plurality of Israelis agreed with it's premises. The world has spoken.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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It's none of Kerry's (or ours) business.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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It's none of Kerry's (or ours) business.
correct. We need to divorce ourselves from the issue.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Direct negotiations do not work when there is a massive imbalance in power between the two parties. The greatly weaker side will not cease hostilities and will always feel slighted.

The UN vote was unanimous and a plurality of Israelis agreed with it's premises. The world has spoken.
You want to know what the reality is in the real Arab world? This:

https://youtu.be/FNKF6nG1zvk
https://youtu.be/yFRIuK1UxUw

The EU, US and UN are fools for not knowing this exists.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Maybe you are missing what he was saying. If Israel is one state containing both Palestinians and Jews, then the democratic process would favor Israel becoming an Arab state. Keeping the two states separate guarantees a Jewish majority Israel, and a separate Arab state for the Palestinians. Just simple mathematics applied to the situation. You can have one or the other, but not both. So weather or not you like Kerry, that doesn't change the reality of the situation.
Well, what if the jews just deported the Arabs? Would that not also solve Kerry's riddle?
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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correct. We need to divorce ourselves from the issue.
Isn't that what abstaining to vote for or against actually is?
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well, what if the jews just deported the Arabs? Would that not also solve Kerry's riddle?
Where do they deport them to? They have to have a country to send them to for deportation. Wouldn't you think?
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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It's as if the Democratic Party assumes the nation of Israel is made up of only Jewish people and no Muslims allowed. Unlike many Islamic countries, other religions are allowed and practiced in Israel, including Islam. In places like Saudi Arabia no places of worship are allowed that aren't the state approved form of Islam. In many of these types of countries if they think you're trying to promote your religion you'll end up in prison or dead. But of course the most free and non-Islamic nation in the Middle East is the problem according to Mr. Pinocchio.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Where do they deport them to? They have to have a country to send them to for deportation. Wouldn't you think?
The US of course.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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You want to know what the reality is in the real Arab world? This:

https://youtu.be/FNKF6nG1zvk
https://youtu.be/yFRIuK1UxUw

The EU, US and UN are fools for not knowing this exists.
Peaceful coexistence is great.
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