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Old 12-29-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Obama didn't really do anything unusual... I am kind of "what sanctions"? Trump is laughing at Obama behind closed doors...
Trump is freaking out that Putin is going to release whatever he has on him as soon as he's no longer a useful puppet.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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We're basically back to Salem Witch Trials now

Obama gets worse every day. No wonder the world leaders are now leaving him out of important discussions such as the cease fire
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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They have proof they were spying.
How do you know that?
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not everyone said there was no evidence of Hillary's emails. What are you talking about?

Obama, who I'm assuming is "the world's biggest liar" didn't go find the hacking data himself. The other intelligence agencies did. Some of them were the same one's that found Hillary's emails (of which you believe it). McCain, Ryan, and Graham, at a very minimum, have seen the evidence and believe in it. But you don't?
Pretty much everyone in Senate agree with the intel. It is nice to see people don't disagree only for the sake of disagreeing. Trump and his swoons are the only ones who deny the facts.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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Why now? He knew about this last June. Is it because Hillary lost?
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The Obama administration announced sanctions Thursday against Russia’s two leading intelligence services, while ejecting dozens of intelligence operatives from the U.S., as part of a response to what it says are efforts by Moscow to influence the 2016 election.
Meanwhile, the US has been spying on dozens of countries and influencing dozens of elections for decades.

Obama's hypocrisy is legendary.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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So they want to start a phony new cold war and keep up this charade that the Russians hacked our election. What utter nonsense. Meanwhile there's a pedophile ring operating in the very highest levels of government and that goes ignored and is called " Fake news".

We're on our own, people.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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It looks fantastic. And if we do something criminal, yes, other countries should put sanctions against us. It is up to them to choose that.
Well, we do plenty, and much worse than sending a phishing email to the DNC. I don't know what other deeds the Russians are said to have done in this election besides hacking into the DNC emails and publishing them (not altering, just publishing). That sure sounds like a lot less than we did to influence other countries' elections. Are we now open to sanctions? What's to stop the UN from doing it now? They certainly have enough evidence we did stuff like Stutnix and snooping on foreign leaders' phone calls. Edward Snowden gave them everything. And guess what country is giving him sanctuary right now? Hmm.

Cyber warfare can be almost as dangerous as a nuclear war. It could totally damage our infrastructure where we could be without electricity and even water for days, weeks, or months. It could interfere with our treasury, banking, energy, or any number of things.

Countries need to start having cyber warfare treaties like we do with nuclear weapons. Maybe this will be a good place to start. It just seems ridiculous to do for something like this, which is pretty minor when you think about it. You just know Russia has snooped and gotten real dirt, but we're going after them for a phishing scam on Podesta's emails? Heck, we should have sanctioned them for taking in Edward Snowden. You know there had to be a cost for that by Putin, and it was the ability to see every single item Snowden illegally downloaded, which as far as I know, is more than has been released to the press. So right now, Putin probably knows more about the inner workings of our government than most of us do.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Well, we do plenty, and much worse than sending a phishing email to the DNC.
While the days of its worst behavior are long behind it, the United States does have a well-documented history of interfering and sometimes interrupting the workings of democracies elsewhere. It has occupied and intervened militarily in a whole swath of countries in the Caribbean and Latin America and fomented coups against democratically elected populists.

For decades, these actions were considered imperatives of the Cold War, part of a global struggle against the Soviet Union and its supposed leftist proxies. Its key participants included scheming diplomats like John Foster Dulles and Henry Kissinger, who advocated aggressive, covert policies to stanch the supposedly expanding threat of communism. Sometimes that agenda also explicitly converged with the interests of U.S. business: In 1954, Washington unseated Guatemala's left-wing president, Jacobo Arbenz, who had had the temerity to challenge the vast control of the United Fruit Co., a U.S. corporation, with agrarian laws that would be fairer to Guatemalan farmers. The CIA went on to install and back a series of right-wing dictatorships that brutalized the impoverished nation for almost half a century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5ca4c8d7de4c

Obama is the world's biggest hypocrite.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Exactly.

I'm stunned that any American would think it is fine and dandy that Russia is interfering in our elections.

Next Americans will be saying that Israel should be allowed to dictate our foreign policy.

How times have changed.
Israel does dictate our foreign policy. One of the largest lobbying groups there is, AIPAC, has massive influence on U.S. politicians and our foreign policy.
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