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If you'd bother to read any of the valid US history books you'd know that this has been the reality since the colonial days. From Washington on, the low men never were included in the overall political scheme of things. Couldn't vote, couldn't serve in the government, but could always die for it. Your over the top enthusiasm is not unlike my niece on the night of Obama's first inaugural gala when her and her young friends were speculating on all the big changes we would see now that her messiah had arrived, really quite pitiful in light of America's political history..
I have yet to see a president that truly represented the "people's" interests. No, the interests that do get served are those of the upper reaches of American power, and that power has a descending order of compensation for those whose job it is to keep them in power, from party policy wonks to those who do the real dirty work, there's enough money to go around, and throughout my lifetime it's been spread pretty liberally. Trump is definitely NOT an outsider, who really believes that one can amass a fortune of that size while simultaneously advocating for the little guy? You're a working class guy, and that doesn't bode well when putting all your eggs in the basket of a billionaire businessman who rode his way to glory on the backs of guys like you..
So would it hurt your feelings if Trump turn out to be a good president, and things improve? I am a realist, and understand the challenges placed before him. But like I often say, Trump is not Clinton, and that's what's most important. Because you know exactly what you would have gotten from the Clinton Crime cartel. More of the same, plus or minus the excuses.
Try learning reading comprehension instead of rushing to insults. The poster stated METRO DETROIT, almost all of the towns in metro Detroit are filled with working people who take great pride in being self sufficient, millions of them, many whom have lost their good paying manufacturing jobs to cheap overseas workers and now struggle to get by. I suppose Trump is going to magically fix their lives and they will get their great jobs with full benfits back? I prefer not to pass out so I won't hold my breath.
More conservative nonsense from the alternative right.
You trumplets cracked me up. America is already great. Smh
More conservative nonsense from the alternative right.
You trumplets cracked me up. America is already great. Smh
Not according to Liberals/Democrats... According to them we're racist. homophobic, xenophobic, bigoted, Imperialist hate mongers who oppress everyone that isn't white. It's practically all they talk about.
Why are liberals upset that things are going to be good again?
You don't know that for sure.
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The economy is going to be moving into overdrive, and our GDP will be growing by at least 4%, but more like 5% and even beyond.
According to whose crystal ball?
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America is going to show the world that while capitalism is not perfect, it is much more fair and wholesome, not to mention more efficient, than communism, or crony capitalism.
I'll believe it when I see it. And btw, the US hasn't begun to see crony capitalism yet. But it may well do that soon. Look at who's been appointed to cabinet positions; those people are all about crony capitalism. The President of Taiwan calling to congratulate the Gameshow-host-Elect? That is ALL about crony capitalism. Fasten your seat belt; we're all in for a wild ride.
Not according to Liberals/Democrats... According to them we're racist. homophobic, xenophobic, bigoted, Imperialist hate mongers who oppress everyone that isn't white. It's practically all they talk about.
Hmm, I wonder where they got that idea? Maybe from reading the posts on C-D Pol & OC forum? Ya think?
This is a pretty good article about Anthony Bourdain, who is liberal. It probably deserves its own thread but meh.
Interesting what he says about liberals and their disdain for the working class. If more liberals and conservatives were like this we might actually find some middle ground.
So what are your ideas about jobs and the economy and immigration, then? I'm seeing a lot of criticism about Trump's ideas, but I don't see anyone proposing anything better.
That's simple:
- strengthen the competition authority and fine price rigging fiercely. Restrict misleading promotions (couponing, fuel perks) to enhance the competition to achieve lower prices. Profit margins in the U.S. are outrageous
- ban extortionate rates of interest
- reduce the corporate tax massively
- introduce a value-added tax to reduce the trade deficit
- tax breaks for corporations that invest in capital goods
- restrict share repurchases
- ensure that political and business decissions are in favor of the real economy and in favor of the average people
- reduce spending on military
- reduce employment in public services
- reduce import restrictions to ensure that companies have to compete with foreign companies to make domestic made goods cheaper
- outlaw renting of housing that fall below a certain quality level
- fine exorbitant rents
- introduce a dual education system to ensure a constant flow of skilled workers
- create regional centers of expertise to ensure that manufacturer are able to compete better with competitiors from other developed countries
- ensure that new technologies will find their way into the production process (the U.S. is good in inventing new technologies, but rather bad in implementing them)
- ban suburban sprawl to stop urban decay, revitalize urban areas
- lower the cost of healthcare massively (more competition is needed)
- make everything as efficient as possible
- try to stop the overvaluation of the USD
- rise the minimum wage
- strengthen the competition authority and fine price rigging fiercely. Restrict misleading promotions (couponing, fuel perks) to enhance the competition to achieve lower prices. Profit margins in the U.S. are outrageous
- ban extortionate rates of interest
- reduce the corporate tax massively
- introduce a value-added tax to reduce the trade deficit
- tax breaks for corporations that invest in capital goods
- restrict share repurchases
- ensure that political and business decissions are in favor of the real economy and in favor of the average people
- reduce spending on military
- reduce employment in public services
- reduce import restrictions to ensure that companies have to compete with foreign companies to make domestic made goods cheaper
- outlaw renting of housing that fall below a certain quality level
- fine exorbitant rents
- introduce a dual education system to ensure a constant flow of skilled workers
- create regional centers of expertise to ensure that manufacturer are able to compete better with competitiors from other developed countries
- ensure that new technologies will find their way into the production process (the U.S. is good in inventing new technologies, but rather bad in implementing them)
- ban suburban sprawl to stop urban decay, revitalize urban areas
- lower the cost of healthcare massively (more competition is needed)
- make everything as efficient as possible
- try to stop the overvaluation of the USD
- rise the minimum wage
Heheh, yes, very simple! I believe that Trump does favor lower corporate taxes. But ban suburban sprawl? Whew-wee, talk about political suicide!
Liberals are nothing new to any society. There will always be people who hate the majority, the establishment and really, themselves. They are a disease to any society.
Think you have it backwards PMF.Reading through the many topics and responses in this forum virtually all the hate i see is coming from the right directed at Liberals. rightie comments are usually very short with content being derogatory in nature and usually contains some hateful name calling,your post being a prime example..
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