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Probably just taking a holiday break. The Carl Vinson, home ported here, is scheduled for a Western Pacific deployment on Thursday along with several other ships. They will also be joined by other ships based in Hawaii with a sum total of 7500 sailors at sea. This is the Navy's current strategy of forward deployment in the Pacific as a counter to Chinese naval expansionism.
I've read that! There were a coupla books written by a Vietnam helicopter pilot who returned home, was busted trying to smuggle a bunch of cannabis into the country on a sailboat, and wound up doing time at a club Fed in FLA. He said he'd seen brand new jet engines being buried in the ground because they had to disappear or they'd lose the $$$ to buy more.
What a wonderful reality! Makes me wanna Email my Rep And Senators and insist we give the DoD MORE! MORE! MORE!
Senate armed services committee is just as guilty.
If we realistically looked at modern and future needs OF DEFENSE vs what we do now, and have done (although it wasn't necessarily wrong during the Cold War as a conventional land war against an equivalent opponent was a reality) then we'd accomplish goals MANY ACROSS THE DOMESTIC POLITICAL SPECTRUM WANT.
But that's utopian. Our populace is too caught up in ego and one-ups-manship to look at commonalities and alliances domestically vs trying to prove how smart, and clever, they are to others.
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lol Like Congress is all of a sudden populist. Populist is the new buzz word we'll be hearing for a bit.
btw Both parties are war mongers. The Dems just voice their disapproval when a Repub is in the White House. Or maybe I missed all those on the left calling out Obama for sending and keeping our troops and weaponry in the Middle East.
I'm for dismantling every over seas base, cancelling all base-leases, withdrawing from NATO, and then negotiating port of call contracts for the navy only.
All arms aid should end (create a but here, pay here for the domestic arms industry) and repeal the war powers act. If force is to be used, the president must persuade congress for an act of war to protect our vital, national interests.
Be careful there... I think Air bases in European countries like Lakenheath,Spangdahlem and Aviano should be left ready to use even if the US Air Force leaves just in case. The same goes for the US Air Force bases in Asian countries. Air power is quite valuable.
On the other hand I think the army needs to pull out. It's not like the Germans, Italians and S. Koreans etc can't fend for themselves on the ground. I'm not for withdrawing from NATO because I think if that happened the rest of it would just collapse and there would be lots of tension between different European countries like there was in the 1st half of the 20th century. What should happen is that other countries like the U.K., France, Germany and Italy should start intervening more if they have to so we can focus on what needs improvement here.
I agree with some of what you say. The National Guard should never had been deployed to anywhere outside this country!These guys are weekend warriors and were not prepared for what they encountered.Contractors also got better treatment than our own troops ,more money which the people in the US were paying for.Thanks Mr Chaney.Oh Obama needs to take the hit too don't get me wrong but BRACK and other downsizing of our Military were done by Chaney and no money was saved.
I don't know who "Mr. Chaney" is but I don't think the Vice President has the authority to send the National Guard out of the country.
Be careful there... I think Air bases in European countries like Lakenheath,Spangdahlem and Aviano should be left ready to use even if the US Air Force leaves just in case. The same goes for the US Air Force bases in Asian countries. Air power is quite valuable.
On the other hand I think the army needs to pull out. It's not like the Germans, Italians and S. Koreans etc can't fend for themselves on the ground. I'm not for withdrawing from NATO because I think if that happened the rest of it would just collapse and there would be lots of tension between different European countries like there was in the 1st half of the 20th century. What should happen is that other countries like the U.K., France, Germany and Italy should start intervening more if they have to so we can focus on what needs improvement here.
No issues with using them as training, etc... have reciprocation for rapid deployment and allowance of a refueling fleet to remain behind.
That keeps all the maintenance, logistics, housing, etc.. in the host countries. Sheppard air base is a good example. Tons of foreign air forces use for training. We house them and their maintenance.
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