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View Poll Results: Where Are You Politically?
Far Left 2 1.55%
Moderate Left 15 11.63%
Center Left 18 13.95%
Center 10 7.75%
Center Right 16 12.40%
Moderate Right 39 30.23%
Far Right 11 8.53%
Other 18 13.95%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-01-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Center Left (Liberal Party - Canada)

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Center Right (Conservative Party - Canada, Democrat Party - US)

Moderate Right (Democrat Party - US)

Far Right (Republican Party - US)

Other (Libertarian Party - US)
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I've been in the process of becoming more of a libertarian over the past 20 years. Still pretty conservative on fiscal issues, but definitely more left leaning on social issues.

My motto: You can do pretty much whatever you choose to, live your life pretty much however you choose to, but don't ask me to pay for what should be the predictable results of your dysfunctional bad choices should you crash and burn.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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No it's that intelligent people tend to avoid jumping into pigeon holes.

Think about it. Why would someone proudly state that they follow the sheep that happen to be grazing in the general direction they agree with?

I can't call myself "far-left", because I'm a sane patriot.

I can't call myself "moderate left" because the moderate left of today is the far left of 50 years ago.

I can't call myself "center left" because I do have some strong beliefs about certain things.

I can't call myself "center" for the same reason.

I can't call myself "center right" for the same reason.

I'm not "moderate right" because not all of my beliefs are moderate. I feel strongly about supporting my country.

I'm not "far right" because that is often associated with the fanatically religious, which I'm not.

That leaves "other", because I don't fit in any of the above. Because I've chosen to think for myself while it's still legal.
Placing yourself on a political spectrum is not a pigeon hole. It's a general placement of values, based on a combination of views and prioritizing them a bit. 'Center right,' as an example, does not actually dictate policy. It's more just principles. Those principles are used to guide policy decisions, but don't necessarily have pre-determined outcomes. In a political society, people will form parties that have more specific policy decisions, but they don't necessary speak for everyone. Republicans are generally center right-moderate right. One big flaw in our two party system is that 300 million people are asked to pick two sides. Assuming it's divided evenly, that's ~150 million in either party and it's asinine to think they have unanimous agreement on policy decisions. But the ~150 million of the GOP are all generally in a position of center-moderate right (though even that is a vast oversimplification, as many could be simply centrists and more rarely, far right).
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Socially FAR right,Economically Socialist but the kind the communists etc are. I can guarantee I am the only one with my belief system here.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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Placing yourself on a political spectrum is not a pigeon hole. It's a general placement of values, based on a combination of views and prioritizing them a bit. 'Center right,' as an example, does not actually dictate policy. It's more just principles. Those principles are used to guide policy decisions, but don't necessarily have pre-determined outcomes. In a political society, people will form parties that have more specific policy decisions, but they don't necessary speak for everyone. Republicans are generally center right-moderate right. One big flaw in our two party system is that 300 million people are asked to pick two sides. Assuming it's divided evenly, that's ~150 million in either party and it's asinine to think they have unanimous agreement on policy decisions. But the ~150 million of the GOP are all generally in a position of center-moderate right (though even that is a vast oversimplification, as many could be simply centrists and more rarely, far right).

First off, I don't have "principles" as they pertain to my nation. Cruz supporters have "principles", which is really evidence of ideological narcissism.

I have ONE principle. Do whatever it takes to advance the best interests of my nation. I frequently say my "country" to ease communication, but I couldn't give a sh*t less about my "country". It's my "nation" that I'm concerned about, and oh yeah if necessary I'll fight dirty for it, and condone others that do as well.

Sometimes "whatever it takes" bounces around the political spectrum a bit. Sometimes a far left idea, however rare, might be the right thing to do. Sometimes a far right idea is the right solution. I believe Trump understands that, and that is the primary reason I've wanted him as president.

No, I reject the labeling. Because with it comes an expectation that you'll fall in line with everyone else using the label, and I don't.

If one must label me, I guess "pragmatic conservative" would be the closest thing to an appropriate label, but I prefer to be called simply a "patriot".
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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I'm more libertarian, so I'm not sure which choice to pick.
So am I. I went far right, because I perceive it as such.

I see the left as wanting more government control and right as less government control.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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Socially FAR right,Economically Socialist but the kind the communists etc are. I can guarantee I am the only one with my belief system here.
You are bucking the trend, that is for sure.

You don't see many people claim those leanings.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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You are bucking the trend, that is for sure.

You don't see many people claim those leanings.
Indeed. It always confuses people so I spend 90% of my time trying to explain it lol

To us socialism means Organized Society, period. It does not at all imply state ownership of the means of production, nor does it, in our definition, imply confiscation of private property. On the contrary.

Let us make it crystal clear: We are opposed to state ownership of the basic means of production, such as farms, factories, stores, etc. We are for the ownership of private property by individuals. We believe that there is a category of functions that are best performed by organized society as a whole. In this category we place highways, airports, harbors, national defense, law enforcement and many others.

We believe, not in democracy, but in a kind of Socialism, which is teamwork elevated to its highest perfection for the welfare of the whole nation, led by its ablest leaders. It combines the best elements of both teamwork and competition. If "team spirit" and rooting for the "home team" are such noble attributes (and they are) then, certainly, having a whole nation united in a team effort for their common good is the highest goal we can strive for.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: louisville
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Ditto. There is no choice listed for libertarians besides other.
I'm independent but also classically defined conservative. That has 0 association how the term is today. Basically the closest current definition is an 'originalist'
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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Ditto. There is no choice listed for libertarians besides other.
Thats far right. These social darwinists market themselves as "centrist" of course because...pot and gays.
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