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So for people living in the south Bronx, they are in arguably in one of the top 10 most violent communities in the USA. Especially considering how dense those blocks can be, makes it feel like you are surrounded by crime.
It's definitely high crime but if you cherry pick the most dangerous area of any big city no doubt it's gonna look bad. If you cherry pick Chicago's worst areas, or Philadelphia's worst areas, I guarantee the homicide rate is not going to be 20th or 25th worst in the country
In 2016 Queens had 47 murders for a population of 2,339,000 people. So it's murder rate is about 2.0/100k, wouldn't look out of place in Western Europe
Furthermore, the North part of Queens recorded just 14 murders, and it's a population area of 1,306,000 people! You get a homicide rate of 1.07/100k. Pretty sure that is lower than most Western Europe capitals, and you have an area that would be the 9th biggest city in the US, between San Diego and Dallas
I support Stop&Frisk even as a left winger, people don't realize how much Insecurity affects daily life. You become distrustful of your neighbors, afraid to go out at night, it creates a really nasty atmosphere. If it gets bad enough you essentially can't live a regular life. I think a small inconvencience of a Stop&Frisk is worth the monstrous drop in crime rates
Queens and Manhattan could easily fit into Western Europe. Brooklyn and the Bronx are a bit more dangerous still but would still be some of the safest cities in the country on their own
Sometimes large cities like NYC can be misleading. For example, just the south Bronx last year, 3 adjacent precincts of about 223,000 people total would rank from cities of 100k - 300 k as:
The above is all rates per 100,000. It gets a little better but still definitely high crime.
So for people living in the south Bronx, they are in arguably in one of the top 10 most violent communities in the USA. Especially considering how dense those blocks can be, makes it feel like you are surrounded by crime.
Thus the NYC crime rate which encompasses a lot of safe neighborhoods and with a pop of 8,000,000+, should technically be considered conglomerates of many 250,000 pop cities, it is better to look at adjacent areas, adding the pop and crime, so that it reflects a better picture. In no way is the south Bronx the safest big city.
PS, Before anybody says, "well you are just taking a cities worst areas and adding it up etc ", keep in mind that even within the south Bronx you have safe and quiet areas.
44 homicides so far in Chicago. Score one for the bad guys.
Update! Now it's 45 homicides. I guess someone who was in critical condition just died. It's heartbreaking to see this happening in Chicago. I'm not sure how to end the violence there.
The "critical thinking" scenario/comparison of beaches and drownings is BS. This tells me you are trying to use statistics to ignore/justify a "violent human" problem. Fail. Until the people in those cities decide to stand up and do something about it while demanding that their leaders do something about it, nothing will change. If the only answer is to turn your head then your situation will not change.
ETA - nearly 800 murders and 4000 shootings in Chicago in a year is acceptable because we have such a large population. The innocent ones are just collateral damage.
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I think the discussion of murder rates/per capita/etc is weak. Its like if one beach had 10 drownings last year vs another beach with 200 drownings even though both beaches are 10 miles long. Does it really matter that the beach with 200 drownings had more people even though both beaches are the same length
Jacksonville is at 12 but soon to be 13. One in the hospital expected not to survive from a shooting this week. St Pete is at 3 and Tampa 2 or 3 not sure
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