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Old 01-03-2017, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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History repeats itself.

After sweeping the election 12 years ago, the first order of House business was to weaken ethics rules.

The current rules were created in 2008 following a series of corruption scandals involving house members and lobbyists.

Now here we have House Republicans meeting in private and voting 119 to 74 to gut ethics rules. No roll call so we'll never know which ones thought this was a swell idea. By all accounts, GOP leaders opposed it.

Media pushback was immediate. No shortage of Republican Senators took to the airwaves condemning the intention. Trump's tweet was curious, more about timing than anything else.

Why are Congressmen meeting in private and voting on anything without a roll call? That is a slippery slope no matter who holds the majority.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Ha! - he sent his mouthpiece out to defend this travesty, then changed his mind? Does that woman have a shred of dignity left?
She wouldn't be there in the first place, if she had a shred of dignity. But it's to the credit of Ryan, McCarthy and Trump, that they voiced their opposition to this so-obvious blunder, by a small group of republican representatives, to attempt to scuttle the powers of the Independent Ethics Panel. What a gift that would have been to the opposition, if they had been able to slip it past, hidden inside the larger rules package. Actually, Trump flipped from his earlier approval of it, after he had taken flack from all sides. This whole regime is going to play like one of Fellini's surrealistic comedies.

The illusion of unlimited power, by this wrecking crew, is getting its wings clipped, right from the beginning. The failure of Ryan and McCarthy, to have enough influence to block it at first, portends the coming in-fighting that will weaken and render ineffective, what might have seemed a slam-dunk of congressional control. This is true Karma, that their ill-gotten elections will result in a Tower of Babel-like scattering of power.

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Old 01-03-2017, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Trump's tweet totally called them out and made them look foolish so they dropped it.
Well, here are the names of TWO swamp dwellers:

1. Rep Bob Goodlatte from Virginia's 6th district. He's been in Congress for 24 years. He's chairman of the Judicial Committee. Conducted vote on a bank holiday, at night and behind closed doors. If that doesn't say CROOK, I don't know what does.

He needs to be VOTED OUT. They can choose another republican, I don't care. But that guy has to go.

2. Rep Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee's 7th district. I saw her defending getting rid of the congressional ethics office during an interview on BBC. Yes, I watch the BBC. They have nice manners, they don't scream. Ms Blackburn is in the pocket of Comcast communications. She's a CROOK.

If you want to help the Donald DRAIN THE SWAMP, follow and expose the swamp dwellers. They need to be voted out.

So, do something positive instead of gossiping about yesterday's news (Obama, etc).

EXPOSE THE SWAMP DWELLERS. Doesn't matter what party. They need to be voted out
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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So the GOP is just going to delay their unethical actions a bit until the public isn't paying attention. Got it.
That's the difference this time. We got Trump watching them, and he's got nothing else to do.
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:16 PM
 
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Yeah, OK.... you know the answer to the question...

It was a small issue until Trump tweeted about it.

Feel free to continue to pretend like you don't get it.
A small issue to those who have no idea about anything, sure. For the rest of us with brains, it was a big deal.
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Proof that Congressional Republican weenies will do anything to please their Massa.
No

Proof that the Republican Conress' first priority is to LINE THEIR POCKETS.

They'all a bunch of crooks. How stupid can you be to want to gut the congressional ethics office and then bring back earmarks (great opportunities for graft/bribes).

Do they think they can just spin this away?
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Ha! - he sent his mouthpiece out to defend this travesty, then changed his mind? Does that woman have a shred of dignity left?
No, she doesn't. She'd better decide for whom she's working.

She's a nauseating vermin.
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Department was being eliminated and the duties moved to the committee.

Typical lie spin by progressives to claim nefarious means while they try and suppress the facts so they can confuse the public.

Fact is, I think them eliminating an entire department and consolidating the duties is a good call.
Good lord.

You don't understand what happened. They wanted to eliminate the INDEPENDENT ethics office. That's like putting a wolf in charge of the henhouse.

They wanted to let the members of Congress to police THEMSELVES.

How are you going to drain the swamp like that?
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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Ha! - he sent his mouthpiece out to defend this travesty, then changed his mind? Does that woman have a shred of dignity left?
Not that I can tell.

So far, my favorite Kellyanne Conway quip was when she said that Trump couldn't be held to the truth as he didn't know what the truth was.

I'm not kidding.

I'm open to a new favorite if anyone has one.

Has she been on TV yet to explain the latest Trump reversal?
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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Breaking News: House GOP reverses course on gutting ethics panel - POLITICO

A LEADER smacks the children's butts and they straighten up....amazing how a REAL LEADER can get things done that quickly huh?
All Trump said was that it shouldn't be the #1 priority. The timing isn't right. But he doesn't like the ethics panel, either.

It should tell you something that they want to do away with, or significantly weaken, the one thing that oversees their behavior. Different rules for the swamp, apparently.
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