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Old 01-04-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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The border is terribly under patrolled -- we need thousands more border patrol agents -- jobs!!
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Gone
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There is already a wall. The places without a wall are in the middle of a desert and there are frequently drones passing overhead to catch any jumpers.

Remove the ability for illegals to live here and they won't even bother coming in the first place. No jobs, no housing, no money, no medical care. Shut them off entirely.
Now there is someone with some actual common sense, some of you others here, not so much.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Congress, huh? Lol and people are upset that poor people sometime buy steak with welfare.

This is all bull & smoke and mirrors, which is the kind of thing that appeals to people that support someone like Trump. Whisper sweet nothings and tell them what they want to see/hear and they will let you screw them sideways because feelings are more important than facts. "I see mexicans every day" is more important than actual statistical evidence that shows that illegal immigration is at a net zero and has been for years, just like "I see people in Cadillacs using food stamps!" is more convincing than the evidence that shows welfare fraud is minuscule. Idiots. All of you.

Trump doesn't have the balls to ask Mexico because he knows they'll tell him, "Go f yourself gringo!". Clinton was right when she said he choked when meeting with the Mexican president.

So many fails and this guy hasn't even entered office yet. Immigration is like, issue #15 as to the many ills that are plaguing this country.

It's so negligible it doesn't even register. But Bush and Palpatine, er, Dick, made it so that those evil Mexicans were coming to steal ALL our jobs, every single one. Forever.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There is already a wall. The places without a wall are in the middle of a desert and there are frequently drones passing overhead to catch any jumpers.

Remove the ability for illegals to live here and they won't even bother coming in the first place. No jobs, no housing, no money, no medical care. Shut them off entirely.
E- Verify was created 20 years ago. Only a handful of states have chosen to make it a requirement of all employers. Why is this?

So long as US people and small businesses continue to employ undocumented people without serious consequences there is no hope.

ICE employs 20,000 spread over every state and more than 40 countries. Not all are agents. 20,000 vs 11-12 undocumented people does not compute.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:23 PM
 
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Congress, huh? Lol and people are upset that poor people sometime buy steak with welfare.

This is all bull & smoke and mirrors, which is the kind of thing that appeals to people that support someone like Trump. Whisper sweet nothings and tell them what they want to see/hear and they will let you screw them sideways because feelings are more important than facts. "I see mexicans every day" is more important than actual statistical evidence that shows that illegal immigration is at a net zero and has been for years, just like "I see people in Cadillacs using food stamps!" is more convincing than the evidence that shows welfare fraud is minuscule. Idiots. All of you.

Trump doesn't have the balls to ask Mexico because he knows they'll tell him, "Go f yourself gringo!". Clinton was right when she said he choked when meeting with the Mexican president.

So many fails and this guy hasn't even entered office yet. Immigration is like, issue #15 as to the many ills that are plaguing this country.

It's so negligible it doesn't even register. But Bush and Palpatine, er, Dick, made it so that those evil Mexicans were coming to steal ALL our jobs, every single one. Forever.

Illegal immigration is not at net zero. Get back with us when the millions that are still here have all gone home. Where are you getting your #15 claim of illegal immigration's importance in this country? Did you just pull that out of a hat?


Evil or not Mexicans here illegally have taken once good paying blue-collared jobs from Americans. And by the way, calling the other forum members in here "idiots" is against the rules of this forum.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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E- Verify was created 20 years ago. Only a handful of states have chosen to make it a requirement of all employers. Why is this?

So long as US people and small businesses continue to employ undocumented people without serious consequences there is no hope.

ICE employs 20,000 spread over every state and more than 40 countries. Not all are agents. 20,000 vs 11-12 undocumented people does not compute.

They aren't "undocumented" they are illegal aliens.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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The wall is coming.

The Deranged said it would never happen. Looks as if they were wrong again.

Trump Tells DHS To Prepare For Border Wall Construction | Zero Hedge
Why would we spend our tax dollars to build a wall when it wouldn't make a difference anyway. What would stop them from digging a tunnel underneath or scaling the wall. Why does anyone think a wall would deter anyone. How about we spend our tax dollars more wisely. But hey, Trump is a billionaire...let him spend his own money to build it.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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E- Verify was created 20 years ago. Only a handful of states have chosen to make it a requirement of all employers. Why is this?

So long as US people and small businesses continue to employ undocumented people without serious consequences there is no hope.

ICE employs 20,000 spread over every state and more than 40 countries. Not all are agents. 20,000 vs 11-12 undocumented people does not compute.
All good points and all can be easily rectified with the right congress and president which it seems we now have. It starts with enforcing current immigration laws, hiring enough agents to do the job correctly and putting repeat offenders convicted of hiring illegals in jail.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:27 PM
 
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They aren't "undocumented" they are illegal aliens.
"Undocumented" happens when you lose your green card or passport. Not when you cross the border illegally.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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Why would we spend our tax dollars to build a wall when it wouldn't make a difference anyway. What would stop them from digging a tunnel underneath or scaling the wall. Why does anyone think a wall would deter anyone. How about we spend our tax dollars more wisely. But hey, Trump is a billionaire...let him spend his own money to build it.

Ever heard of tunnel sensors? The double wall already approved by congress cannot be scaled easily. Walls don't work, hey?


Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, it works


San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR
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