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Old 01-06-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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God will keep making plants, Inshallah!
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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And yet atmospheric CO2 continues to climb.... https://robertscribbler.files.wordpr...ng?w=600&h=469 Don't you think that is a bit strange?

November 2015: 400.24 ppm

January 4, 2016: 402.20 ppm

November2016: 403.64 ppm

January 4, 2017: 405.20 ppm

https://www.co2.earth/
And yet the earth is cooling. Don't you find that strange?
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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And yet the earth is cooling. Don't you find that strange?
Sigh, is this the point at which you go cherry pick some chart somewhere that appears to disagree with the vast majority of the evidence and then post it with no context, descriptions, or explanations provided by the scientists that generated it while at the same time ignoring the 100's of other charts and papers that do clearly show a warming trend?
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Sigh, is this the point at which you go cherry pick some chart somewhere that appears to disagree with the vast majority of the evidence and then post it with no context, descriptions, or explanations provided by the scientists that generated it while at the same time ignoring the 100's of other charts and papers that do clearly show a warming trend?
The earth heats and cools periodically.
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Old 01-06-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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The earth heats and cools periodically.
Hmm, it appears I might have given you more credit than you deserved and it was more along the lines of the "HUR it gets colder during winter, checkmate climate scientists!" variety of argument...

Gonna need to do better than that old, worn out, drool covered and written in crayon on construction paper argument if you want people to trust you more than the scientists doing work in the field.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Gone
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It's cold in south Texas today... climate change just happened.

Another term needs to be used for whatever you are talking about. Global warming didn't make the cut over the long haul.
Climate and Weather are not the same thing, but you know that already, don't you?
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The Ph of the ocean averages around 8.3 ish. There isn't enough acid product to pour into the ocean if we tried to make it acidic. All we can do, if we work very hard for millions of years is maybe slightly reduce the alkalinity of the oceans by less than a few fractions of a Ph.

You aren't acidifying an alkaline when adding acid unless it becomes acid or can become acid based on what you are adding, you can only make oceans less alkaline. Apparently NASA and friends launched a satellite to measure ocean acid levels - New Satellite Maps Reveal Global Ocean Alkalinity | Geography, Geophysics | Sci-News.com any scientist will tell you the ocean is alkaline, measuring the acidic quality of the ocean will always be meaningless, it isn't and never can be an acid.

The use of acid is to scare people, most don't know what a base or alkaline means.
That article above that you posted - I think you should actually read the article you post before presenting it to make your case. New Satellite Maps Reveal Global Ocean Alkalinity | Geography, Geophysics | Sci-News.com -

It's not saying the satellite measures ocean acid or alkaline levels, it's saying the satellite is measuring temperature and salinity. It is also saying that the ocean is becoming more acidic.

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Old 01-06-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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Plants appear to be trying to rescue us from climate change

For decades, we’ve been pumping billions of tons of harmful greenhouse gases into the air, and for decades plants have been obligingly sucking it back out again. In fact, a good 45% of the carbon dioxide we emit is absorbed back into the biosphere by the world's vegetation and oceans.

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Between 2002 and 2014, plants appeared to have upped their game, pulling more carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere than in previous decades.

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The experts were puzzled. Human activity was still polluting the air, but the amount of man-made carbon that lingered there appeared to be in decline. “That portion that stays in the atmosphere – that’s called the airborne fraction," said Trevor Keenan, co-author of the report, "and that has reduced by about 20% over the last 15 years.”



Experts can't figure it out.

Later in the article, they claim people will be polluting faster, and plants will not be able to keep up. How do they know? Because they obviously do not have a clue about what the vegetation is doing now.

And of course, they mention that "climate change" is still happening... They have no clue.
We're destroying the rain forest, which is what the earth relies on for its environmental and climate. We're destroying a lot of acres every day...I forget how many.

Every time there is new construction, plants are killed.

That should give you an idea of what's going on. Of course plants help the climate and pollution. Having plants in your house will help with the health of the air in your house, too. Man has known this for a long time.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:27 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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Don't know how you arrived at your first sentence...

God created the sciences, He can also override the sciences at His discretion.

I don't think I ever claimed plants balance the carbon surplus. The study I mentioned claims that plants/oceans are absorbing double the CO2 in the past 50 years. And the study mentions, as I replied to another poster, that the researchers will be observing how the plants/oceans will handle increasing amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere. But for 12 years, the rate of growth of CO2 in the atmosphere has went down.
The sentence I've bolded is where you have gone wrong...The rate of growth of CO2 increase in the atmosphere has been steady except for a slight increase since 2000.

https://www2.ucar.edu/sites/default/...ot_Jan2016.jpg
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Storrs, CT
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You can give all kinds of theories about the whys of oxygen production. At the basic level, plants produce oxygen, and humans require oxygen to survive.
Photosynthesis isn't a theory. It's a collection of biochemical pathways that convert light energy to another form that organisms can use as "food". Chemically speaking, oxygen is a waste product of photosynthesis (that means it unusable/unwanted -- the plant doesn't use oxygen).

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Complex organisms are not created from soup. It doesn't happen now. It's never happened. No one has seen it happen first hand. Humans, animals - created and designed in their own kind.
That's not what I said. For billions of years before reproductive multi-cellular life, single-celled organisms existed. I'm saying these organisms were able to flourish and grow in liquids for billions of years before any organism walked on land. These organisms had everything they needed located in their aqueous world, with organic molecules, minerals, and gases dissolved in said aqueous medium. These organisms developed into more different ones following the physical and chemical constraints and happenings in their environment. There is no evidence of any organism being designed by a creator.

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In the Bible, God sent a cataclysm of his own in flooding the earth except for 8 people. When they exited the ark, they were able to survive. God ensured all systems were inplace. The sun was there, the water obviously was there, plant life was there (dove brought back an olive leaf).

Not sure how you can be 75% extinct... either you are or you aren't. Whatever the case may be, we need certain things to survive - oxygen, food, water, sunlight. God put these things in place for us. Whenever God wants us to be extinct from the earth (since our spirits are eternal), He will remove one or all of those things.
When a meteor hit Earth 66 million years ago, it killed 75% of species on the planet. Respectfully, what don't you understand about that? I will try to answer your questions, although my specialty is chemistry.

So, if a meteor hit Earth tomorrow, it would be God's choosing that likely the human species -- all 7-billion-plus of us -- along with billions of other organisms on the planet, would perish by cataclysm? To me, that's simply evil. Another question for you: Is is God's choosing that nearly 9.2 million children die every year before they reach the age of five, where disease and starvation are the major causes for death? Or that more than 1 billion children are currently severely deprived of either food, water, sanitation facilities, and/or education?

http://www.who.int/pmnch/media/press...dmortality/en/
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