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Old 01-06-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The 2006 bill authorized 600 miles, which was built. Obviously it is not working, or we would not be having this discussion.
I don't know if it is working or not, but immigration is a shadow of what it was ten years ago. Probably more the economy and a tough e-verify law in AZ, at least. Today, the biggest problem down here on the border is central american families walking right up and surrendering to the BP. They then apply for asylum and are allowed into the country as the immigration "jails" can't handle them.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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The 2006 bill authorized 600 miles, which was built. Obviously it is not working, or we would not be having this discussion.
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The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was later amended by KB Hutchinson of Texas (an R) during the Bush admin to allow DHS to not build a double barrier 14 foot fence but to decide what was best. Chertoff did very little and Obama did even less. So, only a handful of miles was actually what was originally envisioned. Most of it is vehicle barriers or Normandy barriers and such.
So, contrary to Finn Jarber's claim above, it wasn't built.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If you're talking about the fencing that WAS actually approved by Congress and never built thanks to the Democrats (that IS what we've been talking about here) then you are wrong.
Repeating "you are wrong" is such a compelling argument

The bill never authorized a complete wall, it authorized 700 miles, and 613 of it was completed by April 2009.

"The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border.

By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas."

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

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Old 01-06-2017, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Simple way to fund it... seize remittances to South of the border from anyone who is in the US illegally. Should cause quite a few to self-deport, as well.
Seizing them entirely maybe not a good idea.

Taxing them ensures that the money keeps flowing, seizing them practically guarantees that those sending the money will seek to find ways around it.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:48 AM
 
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Clearly it is you who doesn't have a clue.
Wrong.

Are you going to change the subject again to wiggle out of it?
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is certainly a fence along portions of the border, including this golf course.

Fence Protecting U.S./Mexico Border Puts Popular Golf Course Out of Business | Golf.com
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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Repeating "you are wrong" is such a compelling argument

"By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas."
Source?
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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There is certainly a fence along portions of the border, including this golf course.

Fence Protecting U.S./Mexico Border Puts Popular Golf Course Out of Business | Golf.com
Well that proves it -- there is a fence along portions of the border. Who knew?
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:52 AM
 
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The 2006 bill authorized 600 miles, which was built. Obviously it is not working, or we would not be having this discussion.
Uh they went around it. An unfinished wall is useless.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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Repeating "you are wrong" is such a compelling argument

"By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas."
From California to Texas.

Really?

All that fencing in Arizona that -- ahem -- isn't there.

I guess that's included?
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