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Old 01-06-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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I believe Podesta. I don't think he was lying in his emails.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:31 AM
 
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The intel community is now apparently saying that the Russians provided the emails to Wikileaks, fwiw.

U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials
Again, they are not providing any evidence, they are still making CLAIMS.

The US government has been caught in numerous lies and illegal acts, they have no credibility.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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The CIA at first claimed that Benghazi was the result of a little known YouTube video. No one believed them and we were right not to.
Do I trust the CIA to tell the truth? I do when it is their favor to do so.
In the case of the emails?
They were caught with their pants down and had to make a guess who did it. Russians are always a good target because lets face facts, they tend to be dirty.
The media and the left have tried to deflect from the emails. Blame the messenger mentality.
Yeah maybe Johnny broke the window, but Joey is even worse because he smokes cigarettes. What Joey does has nothing to do with the window, but every kid tries to deflect. As parents we usually don't allow ourselves to be deflected from the obvious. In this case about half of us are more concerned with Joey smoking cigarettes than Johnny breaking the window.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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Are we talking about the same intelligence people that have to answer to the politicians in power?

The same ones that told us about the Iraqi WMD's?

The same ones that have overthrown elected officials and replaced them with brutal dictatorships?

How could we possibly distrust them? We must be crazy to doubt them.....lol. #sarcasm
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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Are we talking about the same intelligence people that have to answer to the politicians in power?

The same ones that told us about the Iraqi WMD's?

The same ones that have overthrown elected officials and replaced them with brutal dictatorships?

How could we possibly distrust them? We must be crazy to doubt them.....lol. #sarcasm
Those are the ones.
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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The American people have been lied to by so-called intelligence agencies so many times it is impossible to believe anything they say. The news media, especially network news, is just as bad if not worse. Someone tell them that another word for "spin" is lie.

Who can we trust? I was using DW, Berlin, and NHK, Japan as a reliable news source and now learned that DW is running a close second to our own tv news networks for failing to report news stories accurately or not at all.
In recent years it seems our most accurate news comes for sources like Wikileaks and people like Snowden.

All this hype about Russian hacking; even if they did hack just what damage did they do? Nothing, and like the US is a goody-two-shoes and doesn't hack any other countries? LOL. The election was fair and square. The problem is the elitists had set up HRC to win and instead she lost. They certainly had plans, their plans, for the country and now that's been changed. The news networks are in overdrive with the "Russians are coming" and we better believe the elitists have a purpose for doing so. Could it be the elitists and their puppets actually want war with Russia?
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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I believe Wikileaks because they provide proof .I do not believe the CIA because they tend not to provide any proof.

The days I believe my government without proof are long behind me.
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