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Old 01-08-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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And nowhere is that more of a problem than in lefty liberal California, where 25% of all illegal aliens live and work illegally (source: DHS https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...y%202012_0.pdf ).

Time for the limousine liberals to give up their cheap labor illegal alien gardeners, housekeepers, nannies, etc.
If you seriously believe it's just 'liberals' who've taken full benefit from illegal Mexicans, you're in for a very nasty surprise.

Most business's hiring them to staff all the Quicky Lubes, Tire Sales, Truck Washes, Fuel Depots, among a host of other franchises along your various interstate highways, would probably unabashedly characterize themselves as proud Republicans.

You can't spit in those bastions of individual republicanism; Texas and Arizona, without getting an illegal wet.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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My point is that they will figure out a way for Mexico to reimburse use for the cost. See, Trump has real world business experience, it's one of the reasons he was voted in.
And you think Mexico will just stand for that without retaliating?
Really?
REALLY?

Regarding "real world business experience". Do you know the track record of previous Presidents who were "businessmen"? It's absolutely terrible.

So much for "real world business experience".

Ken
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If you seriously believe it's just 'liberals' who've taken full benefit from illegal Mexicans, you're in for a very nasty surprise.

Most business's hiring them to staff all the Quicky Lubes, Tire Sales, Truck Washes, Fuel Depots, among a host of other franchises along your various interstate highways, would probably unabashedly characterize themselves as proud Republicans.
Really? Only Republicans in California patronize Quicky Lubes, Tire Sales, Truck Washes, Fuel Depots, etc.? How very odd that so many of those "Republicans" vote Democrat.

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You can't spit in those bastions of individual republicanism; Texas and Arizona, without getting an illegal wet.
Liberal California is harboring/exploiting the most cheap illegal labor, by far. Time for California's limousine liberals to stop exploiting illegals and give up their cheap labor gardeners, housekeepers, nannies, etc.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...y%202012_0.pdf
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Looks like Trump's not so good at getting people to pay for all these walls he's obsessed with.




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/wo...land-wall.html
To me, Scotland and its people are on their own. I am focused on the USA, MY country.

As far as Mexico, illegal aliens cost US taxpayers, $113 billion a year and that was in 2013 and they procreate like rabbits and continue to flood in for freebies (The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)) and the cost in lives: Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial

Let's stop being victims: http://www.constitutionparty.com/ill...e-all-victims/

Demand E-Verify for ALL jobs!

No cost is too great! Build the Wall and load the buses going south!
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Really? Only Republicans in California patronize Quicky Lubes, Tire Sales, Truck Washes, Fuel Depots, etc.? How very odd that so many of those "Republicans" vote Democrat.

Liberal California is harboring/exploiting the most cheap illegal labor, by far. Time for California's limousine liberals to stop exploiting illegalsand give up their cheap labor gardeners, housekeepers, nannies, etc.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...y%202012_0.pdf
Liberal Texas comes in second.

And please explain why we need a wall when illegal immigration from Mexico has been declining since 2009? Please explain why this is worth it. Because it is not--it is a massive waste of money. And now Trump is going to put it on a credit card and figure out how to pay for it later simply to satisfy a minority of the country who are his base. Yes that is correct. Sixty percent of the country is against the wall.

Please explain how laid-off coal miners and factory workers will now be employed picking fruit and vegetables, cleaning hotel rooms and doing lawn maintenance or as home health aides caring for elderly people.

And if you think illegal immigrants only work for 'limousine liberals' you are sadly mistaken.

They work in hotels and as models for people like Donald Trump. Here come those nasty facts the 'angry' voter has ignored for two years. If Trump proceeds with the wall, and some of his other plans, he will the most unpopular president ever.

"...From 2009 to 2014, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in seven states: Alabama, California, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Nevada and South Carolina..."

"...In all of them, the decline was due to a decrease in unauthorized immigrants from Mexico..."

"...76% of Republicans favor path to citizenship; 62% building a wall
Two-thirds in U.S. oppose deporting illegal immigrants, building a wall
84% in U.S. favor of path to citizenship for illegal immigrants..."

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

Trump's Dirty History of Hiring and Exploiting Undocumented Workers

Pew study: Majority of Americans still oppose Trump's wall - POLITICO

More Republicans Favor Path to Citizenship Than Wall | Gallup
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Liberal Texas comes in second.
A distant second. And they have a MUCH longer border with Mexico than California.

There is simply NO excuse for California liberals to keep exploiting cheap illegal alien labor other than their own pure GREED.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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My point is that they will figure out a way for Mexico to reimburse use for the cost. See, Trump has real world business experience, it's one of the reasons he was voted in.
This^

Folks (on both sides) fail to realize every "wall" has two sides. A wall keeps in, as easily as it keeps out.

Generally, history shows us that the one building the wall has something to protect from those they wish to keep out. Also at once showing whom has the greater prowess. A "wall" can also have more components (static, mobile, and conceptual) than just a stack of concrete block.

Mexico will pay for the wall, just like anyone with a bank account pays their banker to warehouse their money for them.

Some of the posts here are hilarious. We'll spend money to "find" the illegals, so we can take their money? BS. All one needs do is go hang out at the local "Western Union" window and wait. There'll be one along in a few minutes.......

In the same way that imaginary thumb and index finger extracts their tax dollar from everything we do as legal citizens, it could just as easily extract a remittance fee from Jose when he tries to send money back to mamasita in Guadalajara. IT IS THAT EASY. I think a 50% fee is a good place to start. Most illegals would self deport, we'd get a nice shiney new wall to keep 'em back all at the same time. All it takes is the will too do it.

Create extreme financial penalties for legal citizens or entities that seek to circumvent those taxes for any illegal alien. That money goes to the wall, or it's components as well.

If Mexico wants to start a tarrif war, so be it. They'll be on the losing side of that in relatively short order.......As American interests return their manufacturing facilities to US soil to avoid the fees imposed by both sides of the border. Short term pain, sure, long term gain for the future, absolutely.

Mexico knows they're already on the losing side of this equation. In the end, I predict they will acquiesce with the right amount of subtle diplomatic pressure from team Trump.


CN
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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They will pay indirectly through visa fees that will be increased and export fees for exporting to USA!
No, the American taxpayers will be footing the bill as we now know.



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Did it ever occur to you that perhaps Trump will make Mexico pay for the wall in an INDIRECT manner? Perhaps increased tariffs, or currency devaluation or by putting a tax on phone calls going in between the two countries?
And that is going to repay the American taxpayer - HOW?
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If you seriously believe it's just 'liberals' who've taken full benefit from illegal Mexicans, you're in for a very nasty surprise.
With the largest percentage of illegals living in lefty California, it's quite safe to assume that liberals exploit illegal aliens for cheap labor the most. Otherwise, they would hire US citizens to be their gardeners, housekeepers, nannies, etc.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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And you think Mexico will just stand for that without retaliating?
Really?
REALLY?

Regarding "real world business experience". Do you know the track record of previous Presidents who were "businessmen"? It's absolutely terrible.

So much for "real world business experience".

Ken
I don't care about the track record of others, I'm only worried about how Trump handles things.


Let's look at the track record of Trump versus Hillary.


Trump: 23,000 people employed worldwide


Hillary: 0 people employed worldwide. No jobs created.


Now, who would you rather have figuring out how Mexico will reimburse us for the wall?


Checkmate.
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