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Old 01-08-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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I was very much in favor of his message on race. When he and his entourage came to the city where I lived they did not behave as gentlemen, so that lowered my opinion of him as a person. Still, I think his message was, and is, good.
Which message? Racial equality or reparations?
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:33 PM
 
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He Dems weren't exactly liberal back then... especially in the South.
I am old enough to remember Brown v Board. My home room teacher taught civics. She stood in front of the class and said she would stop teaching before she taught *******

Texas was a one party state. The only difference between conservative and liberal Democrates in Texas way back then was liberals believed minorities had a right to vote.

LBJ was right. The conservative members of the Democratic party changed to Republican with John Tower, then John Hill. The conversion was then finished. Except for Rick Perry.

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Old 01-08-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Which message? Racial equality or reparations?
Fair question. Racial equality.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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Yes, I am old enough, and , while I didn't have much of an opinion on King back then, I do have a lot of respect for him today. I think he was a good man.

We whites were not exactly kind to blacks back then, they were second class citizens, especially in the South. King was one of the people who tried non violent ways to get blacks the lives they should have had all along.

I think that is the problem today, there does not seem to be any one person who is seen as a MLK right now. It is either BL Matter, or other groups that do not use the same message King spoke. But I am white, so I don't know if I can even speak to what is good for blacks. Only they know what it is like to walk in their shoes.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I was 14 and non-political.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:47 PM
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Actually it was the democrat party and the liberals who were FOR segregation and against civil rights. It wasn't until the civil rights act was being passed that they jumped on board for the sake of saving their party's future. The republican party was born out of the abolitionist movement and Lincolin. I believe MLK himself was a republican but I could be wrong.
MLK senior was a Republican. Jr joined no party.


Also, Democrats supported civil rights long before that CRA, and even in that context, it was Democrats who putting on the floor for a vote.

People seem to forget that Democrats controlled Congress with an iron grip in those days. not a single thing could pass congress without Democratic support.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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This board skews old, so some of you may remember Dr King. Conservatives love to point to MLK as the example that all black protestors should follow, but when he was alive, conservatives hated him. Those of you who actually remember the man, be honest: how did you feel about him, back then?
i revered martin luther king. in fact i took to heart one if his dreams that his children would one day be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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"Older posters: Did you like/support MLK when he was alive"

I liked grape jelly on my peanut butter sandwich, I was just a kid. I vaguely remember seeing him on the news and thinking he was nice. I also vaguely remember seeing Malcolm X and thinking he wasn't so nice.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I was 19 when the freedom rider movement was in full height, so I remember King quite well.
I liked some of the things he said and did, and didn't like others. But I was also a half-continent away, so I had no involvement.

The one thing I remember most about King was his gravity.

He always spoke like he knew exactly what he was going to say, with none of the natural pauses we all use in our speech. While he would often take a second before making a reply or saying something, once he spoke, there was a very clear message and delivered with genuine moral authority.

He was often intensely personal, without spending any time defending himself. There was a solid sureness in the man that radiated from him, and he was very magnetic. Even when he spoke softly, every person quieted and listened to him, but he could also speak with a lot of power in his voice.

He never once showed any fear, even during the march to Selma, when everyone around him showed signs of tension, fear and caution. He always had remarkable self control.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think how you viewed him depends a lot in what part of the country you lived. He was mostly accepted in the Northeast and other areas but certainly not true in the south. I don't think people generally appreciated his efforts at the time because part of his message was lost in Vietnam and the other things going on at the time. Looking back on history he was a great man.
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