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Old 01-10-2017, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Do you seriously believe Trump is more sympathetic to weed smokers?


I don't believe he's more sympathetic, I just think he doesn't care at all one way or the other. I don't see him doing anything to further the legalization of weed, but I do see him doing absolutely nothing to stop it by letting the states do what they want without interfering.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Legal cannabis out sold booze in both WA and Colorado. To say they aren't that big of a revenue source is just silly.
That might be one of the most insanely incorrect things I've heard in a very long time. Alcohol is a multi-billion dollar business in virtually every state in the country. In retail sales alone, alcohol generates billions more in these states. Is this some type of a joke?

Furthermore, Weed is so damn cheap these days that it costs less than booze. You can get stuff that will straight give the newbs that go to those shops a panic attack for $8 a gram. The market is so over-saturated that I personally know growers that can't even move their product and are about to lose their farms for attempting to jump on the bandwagon.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Go into any nightclub, casino, or restaurant on a Friday or Saturday night and tell me weed generates more money than booze
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:32 PM
 
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You do realize if they are breaking federal law then he can shut it down? Regardless of your opinion or my opinion.

Why do I keep have to explain this...
People comprehend you just fine. They just suspect that common sense will prevail. And that just because he CAN doesn't mean he SHOULD.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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That might be one of the most insanely incorrect things I've heard in a very long time. Alcohol is a multi-billion dollar business in virtually every state in the country. In retail sales alone, alcohol generates billions more in these states. Is this some type of a joke?

Furthermore, Weed is so damn cheap these days that it costs less than booze. You can get stuff that will straight give the newbs that go to those shops a panic attack for $8 a gram. The market is so over-saturated that I personally know growers that can't even move their product and are about to lose their farms for attempting to jump on the bandwagon.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Go into any nightclub, casino, or restaurant on a Friday or Saturday night and tell me weed generates more money than booze
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In Colorado, Marijuana Sales Are Generating More Revenue Than Alcohol | The Range: The Tucson Weekly's Daily Dispatch

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History was made in Colorado, guys: Tax revenue from marijuana sales was higher than revenue brought in by alcohol.

The state raised about $70 million from weed in fiscal year 2014-2015, compared to the less than $42 million from alcohol sales, according to the Marijuana Policy Project. Last Wednesday, Colorado celebrated a "marijuana tax holiday," where the state suspended marijuana sales for a day. And I guess it was a well deserved break.

“Marijuana taxes have been incredibly productive over the past year, so this tax holiday is a much-deserved day off,†said Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, and a co-director of the campaign in support of the 2012 initiative to regulate and tax marijuana like alcohol in Colorado. A similar measure in Arizona is currently gathering signatures to make the ballot for next year's general election. “This will be the one day out of the year when the state won’t generate significant revenue. Over the other 364 days, it will bring in tens of millions of dollars that will be reinvested in our state.â€

Tvert said it's crazy to think the state missed out on so much money when it suppressed marijuana into the black market. "It's even crazier that so many states are still doing it. Tax revenue is just one of many good reasons to replace marijuana prohibition with a system of regulation."

The nearly $70 million include: $43,938,721 from a 10 percent special sales tax on retail marijuana sales to adults; $25,959,338 from a 15 percent excise tax on wholesale transfers of marijuana intended for adult use. Alcohol-wise: $27,309,606 from excise taxes collected on spirited liquors; $8,881,349 from excise taxes on beer; and $5,646,692 from excise taxes collected on vinous liquors. These figures do not include standard state sales taxes or any local taxes, MPP said.

The Arizona initiative MPP is pushing would allow adults 21 and older to possess limited amounts of weed; cultivate six plants per person or 12 total in a household; establish 15 percent tax on retail marijuana sales, with much of the revenue going toward Arizona schools and public education programs, among other guidelines. MPP recently said they expect to see at least $40 million annually invested in education thanks to the revenue.
https://www.merryjane.com/news/washi...utsells-liquor

Weed to outsell alcohol says California’s new ‘pot czar’

Are you denying these reports?
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Again...

I'm just stating a fact, that Trump has leverage. If I knew what he was gonna do (he might not even use it) then I would tell you.
Trump also said he totally believes in states' rights. Are you calling him a liar? Are you stating he meant nothing he said? Well, at least you'd be agreeing with over half of the country.

The orange one will have his hands full with his Muslim ban (not), his first week ACA repeal (not), his wall (lol), and his ethics issues. And ISIS has been awfully quiet lately--don't ya think? Calm before the storm? You think he's going to take on weed and become even more detested than he already is? Then he is even dumber than we thought.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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You are both arguing different thing. You are arguing about tax income-and weed is insanely taxed. The other poster is arguing total sales volume.

You are both right.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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You are both arguing different thing. You are arguing about tax income-and weed is insanely taxed. The other poster is arguing total sales volume.

You are both right.
Fair enough.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:04 PM
 
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I just thought of this...

Trump essentially OWNS the weed states.

At the turn of a hand he can have Sessions and the rest of the wonderful team he established shut down the weed shops, taking away a major revenue source for blue states (which they use to fund their handout programs to turn themselves blue in the first place.)

I wouldn't be surprised if weed-legal states become a thing of the past by the end of January.
I don't think Trump cares about pot at all. He's probably tried it...no bid deal. And why would you be in favor of taking away a huge revenue from states?
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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I'm a terrible human being for stating a fact, that Trump has some leverage over weed states... got it.

And you wonder why your side lost...
My side wasn't represented in this election. Don't assume to know thing when you have no basis for the assumption.

Also, learn to read so I don't have to repeat myself again. You're a bad person for thinking that a president make economic decisions for a state based on partisan viewpoints, i.e. targeting blue states. This is wrong. You seem to be saying it's a good thing, though I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you weren't direct about it (other details make, and your assumption of "my side" gives me a basis for where you're going with this). So tell me, is it a good thing? Be clear.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Pot is a all cash business, there won't be any taxes collected at all.
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