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Old 01-11-2017, 01:19 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I wonder what the liberals and Democrats' take on this is. Given that they sympathize with Muslims, they'll probably say its wrong.

But how is this different from forcing Christian-owned pharmacies in the United States to sell abortion drugs (which some states do) and forcing Christian bakeries and photographers to work gay weddings and therefore endorse gay marriage???

And by the way, China handles the Islamic terror threat in much less politically correct ways than Obama is okay with. Muslims are regularly stopped and frisked in China and profiling is done openly.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:08 AM
 
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I wonder what the liberals and Democrats' take on this is. Given that they sympathize with Muslims, they'll probably say its wrong.

But how is this different from forcing Christian-owned pharmacies in the United States to sell abortion drugs (which some states do) and forcing Christian bakeries and photographers to work gay weddings and therefore endorse gay marriage???

And by the way, China handles the Islamic terror threat in much less politically correct ways than Obama is okay with. Muslims are regularly stopped and frisked in China and profiling is done openly.
We have Muslims here in the USA running liquor stores. I don't care on that mode.

As for stop and frisk, this is why I won't live in China. Ever. No, I am not a Muslim.

China doesn't seem to have a grip on terrorism. Terrorist attacks happen there more frequently than here. I also have to ask this. Most of China's Muslims are the non-Han Chinese peoples of the western part of the nation. I don't think they want to be part of the China.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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The difference is this:

A BAKERY which BAKES AND SELLS cakes can not discriminate against customers.

A STORE that does NOT WISH to SELL a product, should not be compelled to do so by the government.

IOW, if the US government told a bakery they had to sell meat products you would have a valid analogy. As it stands now, you do not.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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I wonder what the liberals and Democrats' take on this is. Given that they sympathize with Muslims, they'll probably say its wrong.

But how is this different from forcing Christian-owned pharmacies in the United States to sell abortion drugs (which some states do) and forcing Christian bakeries and photographers to work gay weddings and therefore endorse gay marriage???

And by the way, China handles the Islamic terror threat in much less politically correct ways than Obama is okay with. Muslims are regularly stopped and frisked in China and profiling is done openly.
China handles all of their domestic issues in much less politically correct ways. It has one of the worst rights records on free speech and freedom of expression in the world. While economically they have shifted towards capitalism, they still take a lot of communist led publicly policy initiatives, such as suppression of individualism/religion/outside the box thinking.

I'm not a liberal nor democrat but I think any *American* would view such law with angst. No one should be forced to sell something they don't want to sell or are not in the business of selling.
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I wonder what the liberals and Democrats' take on this is. Given that they sympathize with Muslims, they'll probably say its wrong.

But how is this different from forcing Christian-owned pharmacies in the United States to sell abortion drugs (which some states do) and forcing Christian bakeries and photographers to work gay weddings and therefore endorse gay marriage???


And by the way, China handles the Islamic terror threat in much less politically correct ways than Obama is okay with. Muslims are regularly stopped and frisked in China and profiling is done openly.

A question, is this just meant to be an anti-liberal whine unsupported by anything factual or another attempt at feigned Christian victim-hood?
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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We have Muslims here in the USA running liquor stores. I don't care on that mode.

As for stop and frisk, this is why I won't live in China. Ever. No, I am not a Muslim.

China doesn't seem to have a grip on terrorism. Terrorist attacks happen there more frequently than here. I also have to ask this. Most of China's Muslims are the non-Han Chinese peoples of the western part of the nation. I don't think they want to be part of the China.
There is no place where a significant Muslim minority can live peacefully in a majority- non Muslim nation without wanting a separatist Islamic republic. The same has happened in Chechnya, the southern Philippines, the former Yugoslavia, northern Nigeria and yes in "Palestine".

At the same time, religious minorities and ethnic minorities are never truly seen as equals rather than outsiders in Muslim nations. Looks the Christians, Chaldeans, Yazidis, Kurds, Egyptian Copts, the Jews in Arab nations etc
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The difference is this:

A BAKERY which BAKES AND SELLS cakes can not discriminate against customers.

A STORE that does NOT WISH to SELL a product, should not be compelled to do so by the government.

IOW, if the US government told a bakery they had to sell meat products you would have a valid analogy. As it stands now, you do not.
Some state governments have required that all pharmacies sell abortion drugs. I believe Massachusetts, Illinois, and Washington State are some of them.
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Some state governments have required that all pharmacies sell abortion drugs. I believe Massachusetts, Illinois, and Washington State are some of them.
Way to move the goal posts.

Are they making pharmacies sell them or saying pharmacists can't refuse to offer a product the pharmacy has in stock/sells?
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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According to your article,

Chinese authorities have ordered Muslim shopkeepers and restaurant owners in a village in its troubled Xinjiang region to sell alcohol and cigarettes, and promote them in “eye-catching displays,” in an attempt to undermine Islam’s hold on local residents, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported. Establishments that failed to comply were threatened with closure and their owners with prosecution.

You can't be thinking this is something good. Not all Muslims are terrorists. If they don't want to sell alcohol, what is the point of forcing them to sell it? Nobody likes bullies, I aint a Democrat, but bullying people like this is not something I can respect.

Have you been to xinjiang? I have. The locals will offer any strangers goat milk if you are thirsty. They are not bad people. Gee.
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Basically western media reporting China news is full of lies and BS.
How is it even possible to require restaurants to sell alcohol? Use your brain to think.

Yes I lived in China so I know Western media is BS.
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