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Then why on earth did libs vote for Hilary instead of the candidate who would have given that to them?
I'm just as puzzled by this as you are about dense headed right wingers. I mean how dense do you have to be to have a man screaming basic single payer at your face and you elect the "mandate" mama Hilary instead.
No reason to blame this on the right, it's been proven Sanders would have beaten Trump. This falls on your shoulders, not the rights. The libs gave you this outcome. Here, I'll let this video explain it to you.
No one can promise 'universal healthcare" and neither could Bernie. Matter of fact, he could not name one politician who he could count on to help get votes.
YES, this was a problem.
It's never, ever been proven that Bernie would have beaten Trump. I think Trump would have crushed him like a bug.
I am so sick of all of this "Beenie totally would have won" BS. Bernie talked a great game. And there was zero plan how any of those grand ideas would get funded or executed. Bernie has zero allies in Congress, and somehow that would change? For a lifelong politician, Bernje was really outsider.
Until there are time machines, we can't predict what could have been.
Why do people act like pre existing coverage wasn't available before Obamacare?
Not to many mention this but before Obcare there were 35 states with a high-risk pool…High-risk pools gives health insurance to people whose medical history makes it hard or impossible to get find coverage.
The states that didn't have that had another provisions like guaranteed issue states, pre-existing conditions couldn't be excluded at all by law: New Jersey, New York, Maine, Massachusetts, and Vermont. And, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Idaho had guaranteed issue with a few restrictions but still people could get insured with pre existing conditions.
I see this touted a lot about a reason to keep ACA. I am not sure why? Scare tactic? Who knows. I'm thinking the ones saying this don't really have a pre existing condition or they'd probably know.
Once ACA was instated the states dropped this because they didn't need it. But, I'm wondering if they will bring it back. It was better than ACA most of the time, and a lot of people complained when they were switched.
High risk pools are an insurance company's dream: privatize profits and socialize losses.
No one can promise 'universal healthcare" and neither could Bernie. Matter of fact, he could not name one politician who he could count on to help get votes.
YES, this was a problem.
It's never, ever been proven that Bernie would have beaten Trump. I think Trump would have crushed him like a bug.
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Originally Posted by jade408
I am so sick of all of this "Beenie totally would have won" BS. Bernie talked a great game. And there was zero plan how any of those grand ideas would get funded or executed. Bernie has zero allies in Congress, and somehow that would change? For a lifelong politician, Bernje was really outsider.
Until there are time machines, we can't predict what could have been.
Right! So the libs should keep blaming the right for their healthcare blues. I don't think so. They had a chance that was better than Hilary and they blew it. Not the rights fault. I'm sick of hearing it.
It's just more chatter, batter and blame. They say they wanted a universal system and they elected the mandate queen. Makes me realize it's just b.s. and they are using whatever they can to call people on the right names. Same ole' story.
I'm not alone in thinking Bernie could have won. Even Trump said he was way more worried about Bernie than Hilary. I'm not saying it would have been a sure win but at least this crying going on now would have made more sense.
High risk pools are an insurance company's dream: privatize profits and socialize losses.
Oh,and a mandated for profit system is worlds better. Yeah, right!
The fact is people with pre existing conditions weren't without options before Obamacare.
I'll fear the effects when insurance returns to pre-ACA ways and we see the amount of bankruptcies like I nearly had to do as well as my parents over medical issues I had through various times.
Exactly, I worked in medical billing for years and its crazy the amount of bills people ran up who had no insurance. You can make small payments each month and most debts dont get turned over to collections
Some people dont understand that unless you have a mandate that requires people to have health insurance, alot of people wont pay for ihealth insurnace because they know they will get treated and wont have to pay. Health insurance should be like auto insurance auto insurance is to provide financial protection against physical damage and/or bodily injury resulting from traffic collisions and against liability that could also arise there from
When you have a large uninsured population here in the U.S. it becomes a massive cost to the system . Over the years it contributed to a National Healthcare Expenditure of $3 trillion per year (about 18% of GDP) - and was growing at about 5% per year.
Even some people here won't pay for car insurance. It's hit and run with some of them. My experience with two accidents, cops look the other way. What makes you think people will be willing to pay. It's a law here for people to carry car insurance.
Right! So the libs should keep blaming the right for their healthcare blues. I don't think so. They had a chance that was better than Hilary and they blew it. Not the rights fault. I'm sick of hearing it.
It's just more chatter, batter and blame. They say they wanted a universal system and they elected the mandate queen. Makes me realize it's just b.s. and they are using whatever they can to call people on the right names. Same ole' story.
I'm not alone in thinking Bernie could have won. Even Trump said he was way more worried about Bernie than Hilary. I'm not saying it would have been a sure win but at least this crying going on now would have made more sense.
Trump said that BECAUSE he wanted Bernie to win.
Guess why?
Anyhoo, why do Trumplets care? You weren't voting for Bernie anyway.
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