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Old 01-15-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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They don't even want to pay for your insurance that offers birth control.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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If Obama wanted a legacy, then he should have helped the States create their own universal plans.
This was non-starter and you know it. Arizona only passed the expansion to AHCCS (their Medicaid) due to federal subsidies and that was a fight in its own right. Arizona is nearly libertarian right with a lot of the "keep your government hands out of my Medicare" crowd that vote against their own best interests.

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Republicans are neither legally nor constitutionally obligated to provide a replacement for the Orwellian-named Affordable Care Act.
No but when Medicaid or worse Medicare is effected, they will vote those scumbags out of office who cannot offer a TRUE plan. Health Service Accounts and High Risk Pools are NOT a plan.

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Let us know when you can provide an argument that is not based on emotion.
A problem with both sides of the aisle and especially voters. I foresee many Trump voters complaining. One Twitter account was getting called out and rightfully so for saying he was happy to see ObamaCare get repealed and was happy that he still had the Affordable Care Act as a healthcare solution.. Then he complained about how many people were "wrong" for saying ObamaCare actually is the Affordable Care Act...

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Another fallacy. Healthcare and health plan coverage are not the same thing.
Semantics. The issue is barring having money, one would have to have insurance to pay off bills. Many would have to go bankrupt like I possibly needed to and my parents almost did with my different issues over my life. That isn't an option. This is no emotional appeal, it's fact with a name and a face.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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the same way you buy car ins- homeowners insurance- is how you will buy health insurance - watch
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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If it is as great as they claim it is what is stopping them from telling us, in detail, what we can expect?

I'd like to see the complete plan before they repeal the current Affordable Care Act, wouldn't you?
LOL! As soon as they can think of something.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Yeah, and I sure do enjoy having the Viagra on my plan, even though I'm not a male. And, they really should remove any contraceptives from the plan - as long as they remove the ED medications, too.<more sarcasm>

ETA: actually, I believe that until fairly recently, if someone has only single coverage, they didn't have maternity care on their plan. So, if someone got pregnant, it was a pre-existing condition and they couldn'g GET maternity care. I remember a friend of mine, who had single plan through her employer, and her husband also had a single plan with a different employer - because it was cheaper that way for them - being shocked and dismayed to find out she wasn't covered on either plan and they had to pay for the maternity care out of pocket.
I'm not sure that's the case. I recall back when health insurance policies did not cover maternity care at all, except as a rider offered for extra cost, but I thought many states passed laws requiring this coverage, but that maternity care covered care only for the mother, and possibly immediate post-partum care for the infant if everything was normal. I know my daughter has a single insurance plan that provides this coverage, as I did back when my kids were born. If someone wanted care for the infant past that immediate post-partum care, or if there were complications with the infant-even high bilirubin levels, which is pretty common, they have to have the family coverage.
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:38 AM
 
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The woman who off and on accuses Bill Clinton of rape has changed her story so many times that Starr declined to use her as a witness.

At the time, she told her lover she was raped, but she did not tell her husband.

No police were involved and she continued volunteering with Bill Clinton's campaign.

At some point, Hillary Clinton thanked her for volunteering and this woman believes there was a veiled threat contained within the thank you. Who knows.

I wouldn't use the term "bimbo." But I doubt it is inaccurate.

However, I fail to see what this has to do with health care.
"I wouldn't use the term "bimbo." But I doubt it is inaccurate." Says it all!
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:43 AM
 
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There was a lengthy debate. Lots of negotiations and compromising with Republicans to gain their support. All for naught, as it turned out.

As I recall, many wanted a Medicare expansion and went along with ACA in response to Republican opposition.

In any case, it's water under the bridge. Forward ever.

What's the new plan?
"What's the new plan?"

There are hundreds of "possible " plans out there.

When they go through all of those and have 1 that most repubs can agree on it will be made public. NOT until then.

Or do you want them to feed you 1 bite at a time so you can digest it?
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:51 AM
 
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Great deflection, although it is getting a trifle stale these days... hint: the election is over... even though mr stinky fingers grab-em is going to be the embarrassment-in-chief for a while.
" hint: the election is over.."

You should tell THAT to all your buddies on here who haven't STOPPED whining and complaining since the election.

While you area at it send Lewis a memo.

"even though mr stinky fingers grab-em is going to be the embarrassment-in-chief for a while."

No more so then you with this comment.

Isn't it funny, he is being "trashed" for using locker room talk by people like YOU USING LOCKER ROOM TALK!

Oh, the hypocrisy!
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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Yeah, and I sure do enjoy having the Viagra on my plan, even though I'm not a male. And, they really should remove any contraceptives from the plan - as long as they remove the ED medications, too.<more sarcasm>

ETA: actually, I believe that until fairly recently, if someone has only single coverage, they didn't have maternity care on their plan. So, if someone got pregnant, it was a pre-existing condition and they couldn'g GET maternity care. I remember a friend of mine, who had single plan through her employer, and her husband also had a single plan with a different employer - because it was cheaper that way for them - being shocked and dismayed to find out she wasn't covered on either plan and they had to pay for the maternity care out of pocket.
" because it was cheaper that way for them -"

They made a calculated risk choice and got caught.

The rest of us should NOT have to pay for their stupidity.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There goes entrepreneurship.
It does for some of us. Including me. If not for health insurance I would be self employed. I do not expect the nation to sacrifice for me.
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