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Old 01-15-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Trump said his plan would be released after his health and human services cabinet member was seated. Thats Tom Price. Heres his healthcare plan that he has tried to pass inn the past:

http://tomprice.house.gov/sites/tomp...Act%202015.pdf

Read some of that, and imagine how folks would react. My favorite part is where all the Trump supporters who dont have insurance, will pay 150% of the normal rate for 18 months. And if they ever lapse, even for a day, it hits you for 18 months again.

Might they feel a tad forced to buy insurance? And a LOT more insecure in life Oh yeah.


There is a lot wrong with Prices plan, starting with a limitation on employer-provided health care coverage.

Guess if your employer thinks it's in their best interest to give you the best health plan they can, you will have to pay taxes on it.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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I don't recall any terrorist attacks after 9/11. You can't say the same thing for the last 8 years. The world is even more chaos. Inconvenient truth.

LOL, this is how Donald Trump got elected ,pure ignorance
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: On the phone
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If it is as great as they claim it is what is stopping them from telling us, in detail, what we can expect?

I'd like to see the complete plan before they repeal the current Affordable Care Act, wouldn't you?
As opposed to Nancy Pelosi's comment about Obama Care, "We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it?"
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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We'll enjoy watching the Pubs drive the country into the ditch.
Can't drive a car into the ditch that has already crashed there.

But you are right. It's their ballgame now.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I'll refer to Nancy Pelosi on this...

"We have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what's in it."
Context is everything.

“President Obama said, one year ago, when he called the first bipartisan, on March 5th of last year, the first bipartisan House and Senate meeting together with many outside stakeholders together at the White House, to find a way for us to come together. And at that time, he said: ‘Health care reform is entitlement reform.’ We cannot sustain the upward spiral of the increases in health care and what that means in Medicare and what it means in Medicaid. So from the standpoint of our national budget, and for your budgets, the current system, as I said, is unsustainable.

“Again, it’s unaffordable for families, individuals and families, for businesses of any size, and it is a cost to our economy. Imagine an economy where people could follow their aspirations, where they could be entrepreneurial, where they could take risks professionally because personally their families health care needs are being met. Where they could be self-employed or start a business, not be job-locked in a job because they have health care there, and if they went out on their own it would be unaffordable to them, but especially true, if someone has a child with a pre-existing condition. So when we pass our bill, never again will people be denied coverage because they have a pre-existing condition.

“We have to do this in partnership, and I wanted to bring up to date on where we see it from here. The final health care legislation that will soon be passed by Congress will deliver successful reform at the local level. It will offer paid for investments that will improve health care services and coverage for millions more Americans. It will make significant investments in innovation, prevention, wellness and offer robust support for public health infrastructure. It will dramatically expand investments into community health centers. That means a dramatic expansion in the number of patients community health centers can see and ultimately healthier communities. Our bill will significantly reduce uncompensated care for hospitals.

“You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention — it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.

“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we sent the three pillars that the President’s economic stabilization and job creation initiatives were education and innovation — innovation begins in the classroom — clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is health care, health insurance reform. Health insurance reform is about jobs. This legislation alone will create 4 million jobs.

“We must have the courage, though, to get the job done. We have the ideas. We have the commitment. We have the dedication. We know the urgency. Now we have to have the courage to get the job done. So proud that President Obama is taking the message so forcefully to the American people! This is long overdue, a hundred years.

“The challenges we face, the health, the education, the education of our children, the economic well-being of their families, the safety of neighborhoods, all of this, all roads lead to you. The challenges we all face are too great though for each of us to face them alone. We need to form the partnerships, strengthen partnerships at every level of government and with committed and compassionate leaders to understand that the need to focus on the next generation, we need to focus on the next generation, not the next election.

“With that in mind and with great enthusiasm and a sense of history that we have of this responsibility to ensure that health care in America is a right not a privilege; let us move forward in the spirit of restoring and strengthening our partnership, and finding solutions in difficult times. In so doing, we will realize the dream of a brighter future. Thank you for all that you do to make that so.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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LOL, this is how Donald Trump got elected ,pure ignorance
Fascinating how all these "ignorant" people you mention, defeated what was described as the most powerful political machine, aka the Clintons, in modern times. They defeated all the elitists. Defeated the self proclaimed smart people. Defeated the MSM. Defeated all of you here that insisted for 18 months that Trump would never win.

Some would say this proves they aren't so ignorant afterall.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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The plan is most definitely that most of the bottom 50% of the population will die if they cant afford their treatments and medications. As we go up the income scale, more and more families and children of those families can afford treatments and medications. It will basically be a culling of people in Appalachia, rural America, inner cities, border areas and reservations.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The South
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If it is as great as they claim it is what is stopping them from telling us, in detail, what we can expect?

I'd like to see the complete plan before they repeal the current Affordable Care Act, wouldn't you?
They have to pass it before you can read it.
Have you heard that before?
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Fascinating how all these "ignorant" people you mention, defeated what was described as the most powerful political machine, aka the Clintons, in modern times. They defeated all the elitists. Defeated the self proclaimed smart people. Defeated the MSM. Defeated all of you here that insisted for 18 months that Trump would never win.

Some would say this proves they aren't so ignorant afterall.
So your response to the question of, "Why can't the GOP release details of their new health care plan?" is:

WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!!

Yes, everyone reading these boards is clearly able to see who is ignorant here, dear.

So, got an answer to the question?

What am I saying? Of course you don't, because the answer is, there IS no GOP health care plan.

But I fully expect you to come back with another round of:

WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!! WE WON!!

It's basically the same thing you've been posting for six weeks now, because you've got nothing else.
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Fascinating how all these "ignorant" people you mention, defeated what was described as the most powerful political machine, aka the Clintons, in modern times. They defeated all the elitists. Defeated the self proclaimed smart people. Defeated the MSM. Defeated all of you here that insisted for 18 months that Trump would never win.

Some would say this proves they aren't so ignorant afterall.
Even Obama defeated the "Clinton" machine, without a whole lot of help from Russia.
Funny, Trump fits in perfectly with elitist and self proclaimed smart person. Guess you were blind to that.

But, you've ignored the reality that 54 percent of the country didn’t vote for him, and many of those who did were holding their noses when they cast their ballots.

Donald Trump will become president. America needs him to also become presidential.

His gloating, boasting and taunting since his election victory were inappropriate for a president-elect, and also for a president.

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