Being an anti-feminist means I will be a bad mother and am sexist against my own gender? (states, claims)
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
Oh gawd. The classic lap sitting routine that was EXPECTED of " the single gals" in so many quasi business/ social situations.
I recall one drunk officer who slurred something about me being a lesbo when I declined his invitation , much to the amusement of his professional peers.
Those were the days, eh.
I never had anything that bad, but I do remember a lot of hysterically funny times at work when a bit of sexual harassment made the day go by faster.
Ah and there it is in bold. I agree. Did Hillary make such distinctions? We have a thread on Bikers going to DC in support of Trump. Yet the left labels them as criminals and thugs. Read the many posts in that regard.
Look at the many threads and posts where Trump supporters are labeled. Both sides do it and will continue to do so.
You see I have the belief that no one needs to fit into or agree completely with any group. Unfortunately that freedom is opposed and suppressed my so many.
Look how many threads there are on this forum about liberals, democrats, muslims, the left, progressives and minorities.
Go ahead and look at the bolded text. You just did the same thing.
Pot meet kettle.
Blaming groups for individual behavior knows no party lines.
The trend toward Ms. is the result of excruciatingly proper etiquette that is mostly lost on people today, so I'll take this opportunity to explain...
Miss first name _ maiden surname Mrs. husband's first name _ husband's surname Ms. first name _ maiden surname OR first name _ husband's surname
As an example, I was born Miss Jane Smith. At marriage, I became Mrs. Thomas Johnson and, alternatively, Ms. Jane Johnson.
If you read old social columns from small town newspapers, you'll notice that women are referred to as Mrs. "husband's name" after marriage, which is extremely frustrating for genealogists/family historians. It's as if women as unique creatures with their own first names ceased to exist. They became Mrs. Thomas Johnson forevermore. It makes me crazy when I'm trying to trace maternal lines. The trend to Ms. is a good thing.
As an aside, I go by Ms. "Jane Smith Johnson" as my legal name. I do not use Mrs. Thomas Johnson, because I find it ridiculous that my unique identity should be subsumed by my husband's identity. I am not alone. Most of my female relatives and many of my friends have done the same thing. Only one chose to drop her maiden name completely, and she had good reason for doing so.
"It was certainly unknown, in 1961, to Sheila Michaels, a 22-year-old civil rights worker in New York City, who one day spotted it on a piece of mail that her roommate received. In fact, she initially took it as a typo, albeit a felicitous one. Fiercely independent, Michaels abhorred having her identity defined by marriage. Struck by Ms., she became a one-woman lobbying force for the title as a feminist alternative to Miss and Mrs. She even unwittingly replicated The Republican’s rationale for pronouncing Ms. as “mizz,” since she had noticed this ambiguous spoken form when she was a child growing up in St. Louis. For several years her fellow activists evinced little interest. The turning point, Michaels told me recently, came when she was interviewed on the progressive New York radio station WBAI in late 1969 or early 1970. The program “Womankind” invited her on with other members of a radical group known simply as the Feminists, and during a lull in the show she plunged into her impassioned plea for Ms. Her advocacy finally paid off. The following August, when women’s rights supporters commemorated the 50th anniversary of suffrage with the Women’s Strike for Equality, Ms. became recognized as a calling card of the feminist movement."
So I call myself an anti-feminist and think feminism has done more harm than good, but today is not needed in the western world, and definitely get annoyed at all the dumb stuff feminists like to ***** about. However, I was talking to someone recently and she is the opposite, however she made all kinds of claims about how I am being sexist against my own gender and I am pregnant and I am due the 30th so she proceeded to tell me that she "feels sorry" for my daughter and I will be a "bad mother" because as I told her I and my husband will raise her with the important facts and life and I certainly don't believe teaching her that men are evil monsters and that no matter how intelligent she is or how hard she works evil men are just looking to keep her down as feminists teach.
I am a woman that has worked at various places for many years and honestly, the only ones that tried to "keep me down" were other women that had all sorts of problems.
I just don't get how I am supposedly sexist against my own gender simply due to me not thinking my daughter should believe all the teachings of feminism, where they spread fear in the name of righteousness and keep coming up with new ways we are supposedly "oppressed" in this day and age.
At portion above I highlighted in blue:
Sex and gender are not one and the same. Albeit, the "T" portion of the of the LGBTQ acronym claims gender is biologically determined, biologically produced in the brain, as in physically produced in the brain (as opposed to not deterministic, fluid, and "plastic" perceptions and thoughts that can be changed).
So, a person can be born of the male sex but identitify as a member of the feminine gender. Such as Bruce Jenner become Caitlyn Jenner. In terms of perception about gender Caitlyn best said it herself when she said she "was pretending to be a man" all the time she participated as an athlete in the US Olympics.
Because the masculine gender behaves and thinks in certain ways and famine gender in the Yin/Yang relationship behaves and thinks in an opposite way. The feminine gender wears dresses and like to play with dolls. All stereotypes about what constitutes being a girl or woman are embraced by feminist and the LGBTQ people when it comes to issues of the "T's".
The feminist then contradict themselves glaringly when they (including male feminists) get their panties in a bunch over people insinuating that at a basic, deterministic, brain, biological level all girls want and desire to play with dolls, wear makeup, put on dresses, walk in high heels, and give boys oral sex. Therefore, if a boy says he is a girl because he is and wants to do those things feminists say "Look! This is evidence or proof this child that looks like a boy is in fact a girl because alltrue girls want and desire to do these things."
There are not any true hermaphrodites among the human species because true hermaphrodites self reproduce. Biological sex in biology is not objectively construed in terms of social customs such as girls (not boys) like to wear dresses, high heels, switch their hips, or perform oral sex on boys. Rather, biological sex in the biological sciences is construed in a logical way to help provide "explanatory power" for humans reproduce. In other words human babies are not magically produced and brought about by flying storkes as many liberals seem to think. They think human reproduction remains a mystery (as in biological science has no idea when the process of a new human life begins) in the biological science. Utterly false. The biological sciences know pretty much the entire process of development of the new human life/organism and when it begins (when the sex cell ejaculated from a male fertilizes the sex cell of the female egg, Christians refer to it as "conception" and the term conception means "beginning," or another way of saying it human life begins when it begins.)
Men most certainly have opposed women who want to do "men's" jobs and most definitely stood in their way.
Despite laws prohibiting this discrimination, many still do.
True and false.
Men have traditionally hampered or kept women out of occupations and careers regarded as prestigious. Such as being a chef, lawyer, medical doctor, engineer, or holding political office.
But in terms of menial or blue collar male jobs that hold no prestige women have largely kept themselves out of those occupations. Women even less than men (because plenty of men don't want to these kinds of jobs either) want to do physically tasking jobs that hold little financial reward like being a mason laying heavy brick outdoors in Wisconsin during the winter as snow falls from the sky onto them as they labor for lower-class or middle-class wages in the freezing cold. Lifting repeatedly at fast pace blocks that might weight each about 40 pounds, all day long, for years if not decades.
Men have traditionally hampered or kept women out of occupations and careers regarded as prestigious. Such as being a chef, lawyer, medical doctor, engineer, or holding political office.
But in terms of menial or blue collar male jobs that hold no prestige women have largely kept themselves out of those occupations. Women even less than men (because plenty of men don't want to these kinds of jobs either) want to do physically tasking jobs that hold little financial reward like being a mason laying heavy brick outdoors in Wisconsin during the winter as snow falls from the sky onto them as they labor for lower-class or middle-class wages in the freezing cold. Lifting repeatedly at fast pace blocks that might weight each about 40 pounds, all day long, for years if not decades.
The trend toward Ms. is the result of excruciatingly proper etiquette that is mostly lost on people today, so I'll take this opportunity to explain...
Miss first name _ maiden surname Mrs. husband's first name _ husband's surname Ms. first name _ maiden surname OR first name _ husband's surname
As an example, I was born Miss Jane Smith. At marriage, I became Mrs. Thomas Johnson and, alternatively, Ms. Jane Johnson.
If you read old social columns from small town newspapers, you'll notice that women are referred to as Mrs. "husband's name" after marriage, which is extremely frustrating for genealogists/family historians. It's as if women as unique creatures with their own first names ceased to exist. They became Mrs. Thomas Johnson forevermore. It makes me crazy when I'm trying to trace maternal lines. The trend to Ms. is a good thing.
As an aside, I go by Ms. "Jane Smith Johnson" as my legal name. I do not use Mrs. Thomas Johnson, because I find it ridiculous that my unique identity should be subsumed by my husband's identity. I am not alone. Most of my female relatives and many of my friends have done the same thing. Only one chose to drop her maiden name completely, and she had good reason for doing so.
If you were given the name "Jane Smith" and don't like "Mrs", why would you want to change it to Jane Smith Johnson?
"It was certainly unknown, in 1961, to Sheila Michaels, a 22-year-old civil rights worker in New York City, who one day spotted it on a piece of mail that her roommate received. In fact, she initially took it as a typo, albeit a felicitous one. Fiercely independent, Michaels abhorred having her identity defined by marriage. Struck by Ms., she became a one-woman lobbying force for the title as a feminist alternative to Miss and Mrs. She even unwittingly replicated The Republican’s rationale for pronouncing Ms. as “mizz,” since she had noticed this ambiguous spoken form when she was a child growing up in St. Louis. For several years her fellow activists evinced little interest. The turning point, Michaels told me recently, came when she was interviewed on the progressive New York radio station WBAI in late 1969 or early 1970. The program “Womankind” invited her on with other members of a radical group known simply as the Feminists, and during a lull in the show she plunged into her impassioned plea for Ms. Her advocacy finally paid off. The following August, when women’s rights supporters commemorated the 50th anniversary of suffrage with the Women’s Strike for Equality, Ms. became recognized as a calling card of the feminist movement."
None of that contradicts what I wrote. As pointed out in the excerpt above, Ms Michaels' activism was a direct outgrowth of women's identity being subsumed upon marriage.
You don't seem to know what feminism is while rallying against it. Willful ignorance doesn't tend to make for good parenting.
Do you believe your daughter can choose to do anything she works hard to achieve, be it an engineer, doctor, teacher, President of the United States, or a stay-at-home mom? Congratulations, you're a feminist.
I said this to this poster a few months back on another thread relating to feminism. She seems to reject extreme feminists - many do, including myself in many cases. IIRC she refused to admit that she was a feminist, though, even though she believes in things like what you just outlined.
One can be a feminist without being an extremist. Just like one can be religious without being an extremist, one can be political without being an extremist, etc.
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